001Hello. I want to thank you all for joining us this evening. Your active participation is an essential part of effective school operations. We'll begin the evening with the pledge of allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So I'll first go with a a few operation details. So during this public hearing, I'll invite a bo a member of the board to speak about the financial articles on the proposed warrant. Um once a particular warrant has been read um and additional information provided um the floor is open for public feedback. So the main purpose of a public hearing is for the board to hear from you all public feedback on the proposed budget and warrant.
002We will attempt to provide clarifications. This session is not intended to be a back and forth discussion. If you have questions that are not addressed to your satisfaction, please contact your board member, the board chair, or the SAU office. As always, we hope to maintain respect and decorum. This year's warrant is or organized in the following manner. Article one deals with the choosing of a moderator for the 2026 annual meeting. Article two is why the polls will be open on Thursday, March 5th from 11:00 a.m. to 7 pm for school board elections. It's and voting happens in the in the gymnasium, excuse me. Article three is by petition to change from the traditional meeting format to SB2 format. Article four deals with the operating budget. Tom Liberty, chair of the finance committee, will provide an
003overview of the proposed budget. Article five is the MVEA that's the teaching staff collectively bargaining the bargained agreement. Jessica Wheeler Russell who is chair of the MVSD negotiating committees will speak to this proposed agreement. Article six provides for a special meeting should article five be defeated. Article seven is a request to establish a revolving fund for improvement and renovations to the Marramac Valley Learning Center by utilizing tuition money from outofd district students. Article eight, Tom will speak to article 8, which is a request to raise and appropriate money to the special education expendable trust fund. Article nine, Tom will speak to article nine, which is a request to raise and appropriate money to the maintenance expendable trust. Article 10 is by petition to authorize the SAU46 school board to update the district charter to allow
004the merger of Salisbury and Webster elementary schools. Article 11 is by petition to raise and appropriate zero dollars for the expenses of maintenance, renovations, repairs, and improvements to the property known as the Washington Street School. Article 12 includes boilerplate language that allows for other business to be addressed at the annual meeting. Article four, five, eight, and nine deal with requested appropriations. These are all these articles are all embedded in the following presentation. Tom will present article four followed by Jessica article five and then Tom will present articles eight and nine. We will we will elicit feedback following the presentation of each article. Okay, we good. All right. So, thank you. Uh before I start, I want to thank everybody that was uh helpful to me um in helping us get uh a presentation uh on
005the screen tonight. There was a lot that went into it. Obviously, with what we have uh for the play, it wasn't easy. Uh but we have it and I'm very thankful for that. So, I want to thank everybody that contributed to that. Um tonight, going to go over um this this presentation. And I just for people that are watching at home, um I don't know if you can see this or not, but for the people at home or if you're watching after this live presentation, uh you can find this slideshow so that you can follow along with it, it's on the Marramac Valley School District uh website right on the front. If you go down, uh you will find it there and you can follow along at home. Um so this is is kind of
006important that that uh you have the slideshow. This is not going to be shown at uh uh the annual meeting. This is as Tracy said, this is our opportunity to to share with you and this is our share and opportunity for you to to provide feedback to this. Um actually I'm going to go down one more step here just so I can see my notes. Um so these uh these slides are broken up into three sections. So you have a section on the operating budget. When that's done, we'll field questions and comments. And then there's a section on the CBA and then same thing we'll stop and field questions and then the last part of the two expendable trusts. Um I am going to give you like the kind of the 500 foot view. There
007is more detail if you go into the uh website and the the the district's done a very nice job. If you go up to the front page up top there's a little button up there. I think it says 26 27 budget. you can click in there and you can get into the weeds in there. So, they got all kinds of information, all the communications that have gone out the last several five or six weeks, but in the most recent is the budget. So, if you want to take a look at um the line by line, it's all in there and and you can ask any question you want tonight. But from me, you're going to get the kind of the big view. All right. So, just a little uh knowledge of Marramac Valley. We got
008about 2100 kids here. We got 226 teachers. We got 240 support staff. So that's not just your pair of professionals, that's your custodians, that's your uh kitchen people and whomever else. We got uh eight schools and we got a SAU office. Just a little information, cost per pupil. What I did here on this slide is I wanted to show you where Marramac Valley was as um compared to communities that we touch. I put Bowen there. um kind of so I didn't look like a homer and that uh you know they're close to us and they're a little bit less than us but if you look at everybody else uh we spend less per child and uh I added winter squam in there even though we don't touch them we do send our kids there to
009the CTE program so I added them in that graph over there uh to the right you can see that red line that is the uh New Hampshire average and you can see where we sit we are on the left over there under that Oh, I did want to say one thing about uh questions. Um, so obviously you can ask questions today, but the beauty about uh tonight is that we have about another month before that we're actually going to vote. So Sam and I talked and it you can ask any qu you can ask everybody, you know, up on the stage and and the administrators any questions you have. uh you don't have to wait until the annual meeting. Please send them off to us now. We will respond. If you ever, you know, it's
010likely you're going to leave and say, "Should ask this question." You're going to look at materials and you may not uh have something in there that you understand. Just ask as you go and we'll we'll respond. Okay, you ready, Sam? Oh, geez. I gota read the warrant. My bad. >> [clears throat] >> So, article four to see if the school district will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of 51,893,330 for the support of schools, the salaries of the school district officials and agents, and for the payment of statutory obligations of said district. This article does not include appropriations voted in other warrant articles. Majority vote required. The school board recommends this article. Okay. Thank you, Sam. Okay. Just a little bit here about our budget. There's 836 lines to it. 78 of them have
011no change. So, you have a few that go down and you get a few that go up. So consequently, I'm giving you the big view. Everything I talk about today, I'm not going to talk about specific lines, but everything I talk about today is is embedded in all of those lines. So, you're going to get the, you know, major changes. I'm going to talk about those. Uh, obviously giving you some added verbal and again ask questions that you feel necessary. Okay. I want to talk a little bit about the development of this because it's very important. So we had 11 finance committee meetings. So the finance committee was uh myself was Tracy Bricky, Julia Jones, Laura Vincent, and Melissa Muzzy. We met 11 times. Uh and pretty much November through December 15th, we met every
012single Monday, but there was a lot that went in between that. Um I know that Sam I I had a million questions for him. We had virtual meetings, him and I, person meetings and just a lot of back and forth. So, there was a lot of effort. I just want you to know a lot of effort put into this. Um, just grab water. So, we also had umformational meetings in all the communities. So, we went to the communities and uh spoke at select board meetings. We went to uh the Penuk Village Association um and met with them and we just met as recently as Monday night at Webster and we just talked about where we were at that time with the budget. Um we uh that was a a good outreach for us and I
013just want to say I talked about the finance committee but every single uh person up here had a piece of uh this budget. So if they weren't on the finance committee, they were going to meetings of the finance committee and everybody uh might have even participated in those community outreaches. So everybody up here was part of this process and I'm very thankful for that. But I am going to make one special call out. Uh Jessica Wheeler Russell uh who was not on the finance committee came to every single meeting and she went to every single one of those outreach meetings as the at large person and she was wonderful when I couldn't answer questions she could. So, little special thank you to her. Um, did I miss anything? >> So, here it is. There's a
014big number. 51,893,330. So, it's a 3.3% increase from the adjusted uh budget of 2026. So, it's almost $1.7 million more. Um, so the previous budget last year was 50,195,000. So just a little reference. So last year we had a budget reduction at uh town meeting and that reduction was $1.9 million. So we're asking actually for less this year than was uh reduced last year. So this is how it how it works. So there's the budget. We've said that enough. And then we get revenues. And we'll talk about those revenues in a little bit. But we get money from various um uh various ways. Uh and then we have state aid. So state aid is two things. It's swept. So that's a little educational tax that you get on your bill. And also we get what's
015called adequacy money. And that's kind of what they call the free money and that's money the state has. They get that from business taxes. They get that from lottery. Uh they get it from tobacco, alcohol. So that's kind of where the adequacy money comes from. So, as a district, um, it says we get, uh, we have 15,000 15 million dollars put in, uh, as as state aid. And so, the total appropriation is a little over $33 million, and that is taxation. So some of the increases the big one right health and dental this is uh not a Marramac Valley issue but it is a statewide issue the amount of money that um gets increased every single year. So for us we had a 9.8% increase in health and we had a 4.4 increase in dental
016that comes out to 14.2% 2% and when you put it to all our employees comes, you know, a little north of 1.1 million. And for your reference, our school districts, their number one resource is human beings. And that is about 78% of our budget. So that's why that number is where it is. Food service is up $475,000. So that number has just been under underbudgeted in the past years. It's been budgeted at threequarters of a million dollars. We spend about 1.2ish to uh feed our kids. So this is just putting that number up so it matches um what it what what it act uh so it acts as what act it equals what we actually spend. Excuse me. Contractually last year when we had reductions our our uh negot our teachers um volunteered to uh
017take some money out of the budget that was contractual obligations. those are back in and a lot of that is reimbursement for professional development and graduate courses curriculum and programs. So last year we uh re reduced some uh um programs big one was a summer program for elementary kids and also some curriculum resources were taken. Um technology that was reduced last year so we put more in this year and that is a lot for security. Um, that is computers, that is Chromebooks, licenses, and I feel like I'm missing something, Sam. One more. Licensing is a big one. Okay. Then we got NHRS and FICA. So, NHRS stands for the New Hampshire Retirement System. So, um, when salaries go up, so does the multiplier. So um that uh in has gone up that's about for a
018teacher that's about 19.24%. So for every dollar we have to pay another 19 cents. FICA is social security and Medicare. So that's a federal tax. So that's up 145,000. Facilities uh we reduced the budget last year uh by $100,000. We're putting 80 of it back in. be honest, it's not enough, but we're putting 80 back in. Utilities is another thing that's been underfunded for the past several years. That's a combination of oil, wood chips, propane, electricity, probably others. So, again, trying to match what we spend with what we budget and the SAU. So, that's the cost of running the uh SAU. Uh Marramac Valley pays 87% of those costs and pays 13. So [clears throat] decreases uh federal grants is a revenue and it was in the um in the expense line. So that got
019removed. Separation pay this is just what is expected uh for people who are probably going to leave at the end of the year. They expect the separation pay to go down $184,000. Middle school tuition to be reduced by 167. Uh that is uh a lot of that is out of district placements. Contract transportation, Sam, is that correct? Is that part of special education, too? >> Okay, so that would be part of special education, too. Just less need. Uh vehicle replacement is um less uh with leases and then phones is $10,000 less there. So, revenue estimates, so from the federal government, uh 710,000, I just talked about that. Those are revenues. uh Medicaid, that's reimbursement for uh uh students with special needs who receive certain services. Uh and child nutrition, we get money there. From the
020state, we get special ed aid. We get phase out grants. Now, phase out grants is with the EFAs. Uh you've heard about them probably in the news. Uh but uh there's a two-year plan with that. So any money that the districts um have to pay for EFAS uh because their students receive them um first year 50% of that money goes back to the district. The next year 25% of that money goes back to the district and it's over. So there's a little bit of money we get from there. Vocational transportation, child nutrition. And lastly, locally. So we have tuition there. That's two things. So the part of that is tuition that we receive for students who go to the Marramac Valley Learning Center and the other part is for Andover. Andover is probably about a
021million of that right in that ballpark for the high school students that come to Marramac Valley. Food sales what we make. Um and then rent and that is the charter school pays rent to be at the learning center. Okay. So proposed budgets there are no new positions. They have not asked for a new position. Last year there was 19 positions reduced um from the town meeting vote and two of them have been replaced and those two positions are uh library assistants at the middle school and the high school. I think they come to about $5560$60,000 in total. And there's no unfilled positions. So there's no positions that are budgeted that they don't have a plan to put a person in. Okay. So, that's it in summary. So, what does it look like for an increase
022in your taxes in your town? I don't need to read them. You can see them. Those are estimated. Okay. I think that was the last slide, Sam. Okay. So, Tracy, do I just open up for questions or is that you? Okay. We welcome your feedback and we welcome your questions. I think you got to go up to the mic. Yeah, I'm gonna sit up. Is it Oh, it is on. Okay. I think I need to tell you who I am and where I live. I'm Lee Laughlin. I'm from Lowden. Um I have a question about the technology. I've been here 20 years. And early on I was absolutely a big proponent of using the technology in the schools. Um certainly my kids with visually impairment had great access to it and it it made a
023huge difference in their education. But um as I am reading some of the more current studies, especially at the elementary school level, um I'm seeing more and more articles talking about the detriment of it. And I mean certainly we can talk about cell phones till the cows come home. Um and that process, that program, that implementation of cutting cell phones went so much better than I thought it would. But moving back down to the elementary level, um I wonder is there any talk of reducing the technology at the elementary level? I know that there isn't a one to one until fifth grade, but um I'm just curious. I mean, I the kids need it. I'm not saying that we should eliminate it. I'm I'm definitely not going back to Ly stage, but I do find
024and I think people can agree too that our kids today, you know, they don't know how to write. They don't know how to do it without the computer. And um I still think that's an important skill. So, I'm just curious. So um through the reductions that happened last year, we actually will no longer be a onetoone at the elementary school level moving forward. Um we do have uh technology access to all of our students, but it's something that we we use um to supplement and to support instruction. It is not a primary tool for instruction and it certainly is not something that our students are spending the the majority of their day on. Um I I do think our students know how to read and write and that's certainly something that we we spend a
025lot of time focusing on um with without technology. We have some pretty talented teachers. We're pretty lucky. Can you hear me? There it is. Uh I'm Jennifer Chase. I'm in Penuk here. Uh, and I'm noticing a lot of the reductions seem to be coming in. I see the special ed tuition and travel down 167,000. Uh, and then there was another reduction around travel and and tuition. And I'm just curious if that has to do with the fact that we don't have to send students to other districts if we're able to put them at the learning center. >> Hi. Um, yes. So, there have been some changes um as happen in special ed daily. So overall those changes um are reflected in those numbers. >> Okay. So it's more about less students being in the special
026ed program or >> or different places as well. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Bill Hines Boswin. I think I have a Sam will probably be the one to field this question. So, you took the 710,000 out of federal money from the budget side, but you're still showing it here on the revenue side, uh, as well as the $30,000 for rent from the, uh, learning center, uh, excuse me, CSI. Um, those go away. They literally get taken out when we get to the 24hour. So, this is kind of the 24 hour, uh, 24. We get to October, there'll be a reconciliation. that 710 will go out and you can see it right here on the last page where last year that 710 wasn't there and now it is and I'll tell you that it will go
027away this year in October and it will have no benefit to the taxpayers. So you took it out on one side, don't you have to take it out on the other side and then specifically to the the tuition or the rent? Why not leave that in there too? uh so that you know taxpayers get the benefit of it because that goes out every every October as well. >> So let me start with the rent first. I don't think rent was actually put in there in the past bill um because it it it will still be in there this fall when when we do the 24hour the 710 last time was actually when I spoke to the DRRA spoke to the auditors it was in the wrong location. So it'll now be in the appropriate location
028under the federal grants for that 24hour. So that still should remain when we do it in the fall. >> Dana Flanders Loud in New Hampshire. Um, I'm looking at article 10. I realize it is by a petition. I'd just like to hear Randy and Katherine and maybe the school board members thoughts on whether this is a good idea for the district or not. Right now, we're still on article four. So, we need to finish article four. But are there any questions on article four, the operating budget? Okay, thank you. Hello. Hello. Good evening. I'm here to discuss article four um which reads, excuse me, article five, my notes are wrong. [clears throat] to see if the school district will approve the cost items included in the collective bargaining agreement reached between the Marramac Valley School
029Board and the Marramac Valley Education Association, which calls for the following estimated increases in salaries and benefits for the 2627 school year. $765,78 for the 2027 uh28 school year. $692,98 for the 2829 school year. 667,62 and [clears throat] further to raise and appropriate the sum of 600 uh excuse me 765 $78 for the 26 27 fiscal year. such sum representing the additional cost attributable to the increase in salaries and benefits required by the new agreement over those that would be paid at the current staffing levels. The school board recommends this article. So, I'm happy to have the opportunity to speak with you about all the educators who come under this agreement from the teachers to nurses to counselors and more. All of us here tonight are aware of the challenges attracting high-quality educators. With this
030in mind, the Marramac Valley School Board and the Marramac Valley Education Association worked together to bring forward a collectively bargained agreement to MV voters. The primary goal with this three-year proposal is simple. Attract and retain qualified educators by moving our salaries into more competitive regional range. Currently, our district ranks seventh out of eighth in starting salaries for teachers with a bachelor's degree. And for those with master's degree, we currently rank last. This agreement is a strategic step towards closing that gap. An overview of this contract. The total estimated investment of this three-year agreement is two mill 2,125,48 which includes the salary New Hampshire retirement system contributions in FICA, which is payroll tax. Including the amounts for retirement and FICA or payroll tax is the new approach that is in line with best practices. So you'll
031notice the article looks a little different than in years past. That's why. So, the investment is structured as follows. for the 2627 school year, a 4.18 uh% average increase. And the cost is made up of $63,490 for salaries, $116,51 for retirement and 46,167 for FICA payroll tax. uh which totals six sorry totals 7 million excuse me 65,78. Year two the 2728 school year a 3.63% average increase. That cost is made up of $545,474 for salaries, $14,895 for retirement, and $41,729 for FICA. Year three, which is the 2829 year, a 3.38% average increase. Uh the cost is made up of $526,68 for salaries, $11,82 for retirement, and 40,252 for FICA totaling uh 667,62 for that year. Um, in addition to that, if Sam, you can move on to the next slide, and I'm going to have
032you go back to this one. This the other items that were negotiated in the contract, but are not subject to the warrant article. I thought it would be important to note that there are other things involved in these. Um, we added an additional professional development day. We overhauled sick time into paid time off to clarify language for staff and admin. Uh we aligned class coverage uh language for K through 12. We added an opportunity for elementary teachers to be compensated for setting up their classrooms before school begins and we have established liquidated damage fees for faculty seeking a release from the contract after June 1st and to discourage mid-year departures that disrupt student learning. This agreement represents steady progress and while we still face a challenge in matching the top tier salaries of the region,
033this contract provides the stability and competitive growth necessary to keep our best educators in the Marag Valley school system. And I now open the floor for feedback on this article. Hello, David Hemway Webster. And I I want to start by stating that I support these types of agreements and I support our teachers. And so this is a good step forward in my uh opinion. However, I do want to uh talk about one thing uh that you mentioned on the second uh slide of this uh which is the professional development days. Uh I fully support teachers having professional development days and being paid for them. Uh, one thing that I was kind of shocked to notice, uh, without being informed about, uh, was that when my daughter came home from school for one of the days
034in the past weeks, uh, she had had a day of basically worksheets uh, and the teacher was out of the school for professional development day during a learning inschool day. Now I know that is not this particular agreement. Uh so my comment there is please look at addressing this in policy so that when our kids are in school they get to keep their teachers because our teachers are good and they are the asset. Thank you. Hi, I just want to ask Trudy Mith from Lden. I wanted to ask for two definition u of the non-financial aspect of the contract. What is K12 alignment mean? And um can you explain the last item about liquidated damages? >> Yeah. Um >> thank you. I can explain the last one off the top of my head, which is
035um that language kind of allows the admin, the administration to have more teeth if a a staff member breaks contract um before or um Kathleen, if you can remember when that date actually was, >> May 31st. >> After Oh, go right ahead. So, right now there's language that there's a percent um charge to people leaving the district breaking their contract after June 1st, July 1st, and August 1st. Um it's called breach of contract penalty. Our legal council advised us that we should change it to liquidated damages. So, we're using liquidated damages moving forward. Same percentages, same dates, June, July, August. And [clears throat] then your second question was on the uh K12 uh class coverage alignment. Um so there was a number of articles, excuse me, a number of um items that were discussed about
036classroom coverage and management. Some of this was um changing up preparation time and for um K through 12 um the elementary school teacher prep and the middle school teacher prep. Um, and then allowing our our uh elementary school classroom teachers to have an extra day to um or rather get compensated for spending an extra day before the school year starts to um prepare their classrooms. And then there were some different languages around um excuse me, PTO um but I don't believe that's actually covered under that item. >> Jess, can I jump in? >> Go right ahead. So the K to2 alignment is just clarifying language from elementary to middle school to high school teachers and and how we um perform coverage and and what we pay for coverage. That's that's what it means. So now
037K to 12 all the teachers are basically on the same plan instead of having three different ones. about um the um liquidated damages. So all liquidated damages does is it allows us to use a collection agency instead of human resources department Kathleen um continually reaching out to teachers after teacher to to get them to to pay their their breach of contract fee. So now we can turn that over to a collection agency to to do the work for us. >> Thank you for asking that. I appreciate it. >> I see no further questions. So thank you very much. So, I'll read the two articles for the Expendable Trust. Article 8 to see if the school district will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $500,000 to be added to the special education expendable trust
038fund previously establish established [clears throat] for the purposes of supporting student service. Uh majority vote required. The school board recommends this article. In article nine, I'm going to read them together. uh to see if the school district will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $200,000 to be added to the maintenance expendable trust fund previously established for the purposes of maintaining school buildings and grounds. Majority vote required. The school board recommends this article. So, [clears throat] expendable trusts, here's their purpose. to save money for high cost unexpected um expenses uh to help stabilize your taxes. So if we get um you know a big bill for something that we didn't expect, you can go to the expendable trust um to withdraw money to help pay for it. Um, and if you don't have enough
039money, you can have to have a special meeting in the town uh or or in the district to raise that money. And this prevents this this and it's a it's a safety net. So, special education, we're asking for a half a million dollars to be put into that. There's currently not a scent in there. So, if you remember last year, we had the deficit and we removed a half a million dollars that we had in there to to help with that and uh we just want to replenish that, the maintenance fund. So, I I'll tell you the part of this uh conversation we had in the finance committee was [clears throat] we want to support our schools, but we also know that we can't have everything that we want in one year. So, we understand
040that um in the next uh five years, if you look at the CIP uh plan that's on on the district site, it's $10.8 million in projects. If you look at just next year, it's just a little shy of a million dollars that the district needs for for certain things. So, I know that there's $194,000 uh requested for uh sidewalks and parking. I know that there's a $475,000 for um the roof here at the high school and there's another another big one is at Lden uh electrical work for uh $129,000. So there's a lot of money that needs to be uh used to upkeep our buildings. So there is currently $800,000 in in that expendable trust. Uh the budget has $600,000 in a combination of site and building um improvements uh which is funds many other
041things than than what I what I just shared. So as we try to to put money into these trusts, we also are trying to put money that quite frankly you'll approve. Um so we didn't put millions of dollars into these trusts. Instead we're looking to to build over the years. Okay. So, just some things about it. Um, so a little bit of a different approach. The district in the past has tried to use a fund balances. So, meaning that at the end of the school year when there is money that is not been spent, they can take that money and put it into uh expendable trusts. Um, instead, we're just putting it out there. We're at we're putting into warrants. Uh that way we don't have a great big huge budget to put another $700,000
042in the operating budget. Instead, we're just putting out there in warrants to be voted on. Um so you can see we added those two with those specific amounts. And I just want to speak a little bit about special education that is it truly is unpredictable and it truly is a wild card. um if somebody moves into the district with with high needs or somebody a family moves into the district uh that a child is is placed out of district, we take that on. And um I think um uh Julie and her team has done a wonderful job. We atypically our special ed um has not gone up this year. It's been pretty pretty consistent to last year. Uh but that doesn't mean that we will not have a situation that we need to draw some
043money from. So that is um that is why that that one has the the larger amount in it. Um so uh I talked a little bit about the current uh CIP. Um and the last thing I want to say is I just think this approach of doing these three financial warrants with the two expendable trusts in the operating budget, they go hand in hand. But I think it gives you clarity exactly where that money is going to go. It gives the district clarity exactly how much money will go into those trusts and as a voter uh you know it helps you decide what what you want to support. So um I really like this approach and I'm glad we went down this direction and I will open it up for any questions or comments. Lisa
044Laughlin from Louden. Um question about special ed funding. My understanding, well, it is mandated as you mentioned if we have a high need student move into the district, we are required to cover those costs. Correct. Okay. If that money is not in the budget and it is not in the expendable trust fund, then what? So, that's a really good question. Um, so the way it works is we don't immediately um change a placement for a student, but when a student moves into district and is already placed somewhere else, we do have a say in um the decision making um as to whether we would keep that that child in that program. Of course, we don't know the child yet, so we take our time. Um but but there is always the the possibility that we
045may have say a program in house like our learning center um that would not only be a cost savings but would also be um less restrictive for the child um because it would be in their home community. Um uh to answer your question as far as if uh there's no funding and um we're we're bound under law to provide something. I'm going to turn that over to someone else. So, we would uh Lisa, we'd go over in that line and we'd be running in the red in that particular line and we would hope to absorb it from lines that that we haven't gone uh to the full amount. Which is why we've been talking about for the last couple of years of shooting for a 10% fund balance at the end of each year to
046have that sort of uh buffer for exactly that. Which is why we are hoping to have an expendable trust that is funded to a point that would you know, take care of exactly the situation that you're that you're describing because if we didn't have a fund balance and we didn't have that expendable trust, we still need to come up with that money and that would lead to a deficit. >> To be clear, I am wholly in favor of this article. I actually do not I'm not in favor of pulling it out from the budget. Um I think it is just something that we have to expect to fund. Um, but I so I would just wanted to sort of play that out for people so they understand the process that this gets funded one way
047or another and this is the more financially responsible way to do it is to put it in now when we don't need it and let it sit there. >> You're exactly right. Thank you >> Dave Hemanway Webster again. Uh, I want to say thank you for finally making the uh, warrant articles [snorts] sensible so that they are actually asking for the amount that you're expecting to put into the trust funds instead of uh, randomly from a fund balance that may or may not actually exist. The second question I have is you've pointed out here that with the CIP and the multiple projects, the 200,000 is not the appropriate amount to fund them. And yes, that will fund it by basically draining it and setting it to zero for the next year. What does that look
048like for the years afterwards? Obviously, you have to make up for more if you need to do projects. Uh and so what are what is the expectation for the following years for the funding for this particular trust fund and or what should it be set to I if it's going to stay uh salient through the entire time instead of fluctuating rapidly [clears throat] as Uh we have a lot of things to do. We have a big district. We have a lot of assets that we need to take care of and $200,000 isn't enough. Um for this coming year, we have 800,000 in the maintenance expendable trust currently and that will be enough to take care of the three or four things that we have planned for next year. um the amount's got to go up,
049you know, or there's going to be separate law articles. Um and if the people want to hopefully they vote for it, I mean, it's just common sense. You got to take care of what you got. Um and most of the money in the coming years are roofs and HVAC. Um so the kids got to have fresh air and they got to have protection from the elements. So, I'm assuming that's I won't be here, unfortunately. Um, but that's that's the way it's going to have to be. It's going to have to be separate law articles. And, you know, I don't know what we'll do if those are voted down. It's I I can't imagine, you know, logic not overcoming common sense. Dave, just to add to that, we have talked at the finance committee meetings that
050the possibility of I'm just gonna I'll just use an example of HVAC. Let's just say there was a you know threequarters of a million dollars uh for a project or a million dollars instead of trying to put money into an expendable trust to simply warrant that whole project. And uh I think that's what Fred was alluding to and as he said, I don't know what will happen if that warrant doesn't go through. But we've talked about that as a possibility, too. >> HVAC, just to just to piggy back on what Tom said, um if you look at the CIP, um HVAC, pick a school, it doesn't make any difference. But if the people go and look at the CIP, um like the high school for example, starting 2728, there's like 800,000 800 Um, you know,
051$800,000 will just about cover one air hailing unit. Um, and one air handling unit normally would cover 8 to 10 classrooms. Um, and you know, you put that bosine, you got there's a lot of ATRA and unfortunately we're mandated to to have that stuff. So, a lot of money. >> Yeah. So, the point that I would make here is that okay, if you're going to fund things individually, but then you end up with a single year where things spike by one or more million dollars. And I apologize, I have not had the time to go dive into the CIP this year. Uh but if I remember correctly when I did the calculations last year, uh I was expecting that what we would actually need to put into this fund was somewhere around 450 to 500
052uh every year going forward in order for that to mostly even out for the amounts. Uh so I would strongly suggest that you look at that so that we don't end up with a sudden spike in tax rates in a couple years. Thank you, Bill Hines Boswin. I just a comment or I want to point something out to our peers here. The it's important to understand why we're changing this. I think the why is important and where we have previously funded this with a fund balance. there isn't going to be no fund balance for the ensuing number of years because we're approximately still $900,000 to the negative on the fund. And so if we have extra, if we're able to to save and have extra, then that just goes to pay down that fund balance.
053So it's important to understand that that's why this strategy is being taken is to outright raise and appropriate these funds from the taxpayer. >> Yeah. So, what Bill was saying is if we let's say this year we have a $250,000 fund balance that goes to pay off um $900,000 left on the on the deficit. But I would say, Bill, that is not the only reason that we did this. We did this strategically um as I stated before that we want to know exactly how much is going to go in there and we just want to lay it out to the voters. So, there's more than just uh because we we have a a deficit. So, does that mean at some time in the future when there are fund balances, you're going to give it back
054to us? >> I'm not running for school board, Bill. That's a question for somebody else. >> Dave Hmanway, one more time, >> just one comment about when there is a fund balance that does go to offset taxes in the in the following year. So the answer to that is yes. Regardless of who's on the board, whatever that fund balance is, when I gave the number of 10%, if we have a 10% fund balance, that goes to offset taxes in the following year. So that's Dave Heway again. That's actually a perfect segue to uh my question, which is somewhat it's about funds, but not necessarily these trust funds. I was just wondering if there could be a update given on the contingency fund uh that was voted in because that comes out of the fund balances
055uh and similar and if there's a better time to do that that's fine. Thank you. >> The only update is without a fund balance there can be no contingency fund. Okay, let's move on with the slides. So, this is what it looks Oh, I'm sorry. There's the four financial warrant. You already know that. So, this is what it looks like. Um if um if they all go through. So, you know, just looking at Bosin, you can go across the SPE is a special education and the MAT is the maintenance expend expendable trust. So, I'm just going to leave that slide up there for about 10 more seconds so you can take a look at your your community. We're going to kind of go through the next ones a little bit rapid fire and just explain.
056And again, you have this. So, you ready, Sam? And this is this is estimated and I'm going to tell you a little something that um I think that budgeting has been done very conservatively. So, meaning that I think these numbers are actually a little high personally. Um, so you I'm going to go back to that $15 million of adequacy. That number is actually um smaller than the state calculation that they give you. So, the state calculation is very convoluted, but you can go on the DOE and you can find it how they do it. They have a a 28 minute video you can watch um and you can go look at at your lines. The state recommends out of that adequacy that you budget only 95% of that. That's what they ask you to do
057safety because you're guaranteed to get 95%. So 95% of the Marramac Valley adequacy was $15 million. There's 5% of that that we didn't budget in there as revenue which offsets your taxes. I get it. If I'm a BA, I get it. I'm I'm right there with them. But I just want you to know that's the that's kind of the low mark. So the there's possibility that we're going to get all of your towns are going to get more adequacy, meaning that those numbers are going to go down if that's the case or on the budget side that number will go down if that's the case. So when you go through, if you got a $400,000 home, again, this is estimated. I believe these numbers are a little bit higher than they actually will be, but
058that's just my belief. I could be wrong. So Louden, this is what you're looking at. Ben Cookook, this one's a little tougher. Um, and I'll say that if we did budget 100 adequacy, which I'll say again, the state advised us not to do that 756 would be $220 less than it is right here. Uh, Salsbury, and these are increases. These are increases, estimated increase. And lastly, Webster, there you are. So, that's what it looks like. That's it. >> Okay, Tracy, you taking over? >> Thank you. >> Yep. >> Thank you, Sue. I um we received three petitioned warrant articles. So, petitioned warrant articles are articles that um were uh brought forward by a petition of at least 25 signatures. Um I will read those. The board has not seen them, has not had a chance.
059They just the um deadline for petition warrant articles was yesterday. So um I think we got two yesterday, one yesterday and the others a couple days before, but anyway, it doesn't matter when we got them. The board has not had a chance to discuss them yet. But the first petition for an article is article three. Shall we adopt the proision provisions of RSA 4013 known as SB2 to allow official ballot voting on all issues before the Marramac Valley School District on the second Tuesday in March? It's by petition. It's a three-fifths majority ballot vote required. Most most of the ballot most of the uh excuse me most of the articles are just a um majority but that one is a three-fifths. Um, article 10 to see if the district will vote to authorize the SAU
060number 46 school board to update the district charter to allow the merger of the elementary grades K to 5 of Salsbury and Webster into a single consolidated elementary school facility and to further authorize the school board to enter into necessary agreements and take all other actions necessary to effectuate this consolidation to commence with the 2027 2028 school year. for the purpose of creating operational efficiencies, enhancing educational programming and the student learning experience and the student learning experience, reducing administrative overhead and providing equitable resources for all students in both communities by petition and a majority vote is required and article 11 to raise and appropriate zero zero dollars for the expenses of maintenance, renovations, repairs, and improvements to the property known as the Washington Street school located at 26 Washington Street, Penuk, New Hampshire 03303. No
061Marramac Valley School District monies appropriated in the 20 26 2027 budget, nor any monies appropriated in the 26 school district warrant articles, nor any or any monies in trust funds, nor monies by transfer are of funds, nor any monies received by any means such as gifts or grants will not be expended for use for used maintenance, renovations, repairs, or improvements to the property known as the Washington Street school located at 26 Washington Street, Pinnacook, New Hampshire 03303. That's also by petition and a majority vote is required. >> Julian Edward Webster. Um, quick question. Several years ago, there was a study done for Webster Salsbury Elementary Schools. Can we resurrect that to the website so we can educate ourselves? I don't remember what all the pros and cons were. >> If you go to the reports
062and studies section under the school board tab, the 2021 small school study is there. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> As well as the 2013 study. Dan Nud Webster, are these warrant articles um advisory or are they if we if the voters pass them, do they go through? >> They are advisory. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Mhm. >> With the exception of SP2, which is by ballot vote three-fifths majority. Bill Hines Bosquin meaning they carry no weight meaning the school board or the governing body which is the school board could not abide by them. Is that that what you mean by advisory? >> That is correct. hi. I'm Katie Fuller from Webster. Um, so just I know you guys haven't had a chance to talk about it. My little girl goes to kindergarten this year in
063Webster, so I have a special interest in what happens. Do you know if we were to vote and pass this, who goes where? um because it's potentially setting them up to get comfortable in Webster and go to Salisbury and vice versa. Um >> so, as I said, we just barely got these, so we haven't had a chance to discuss them, but um as Julie spoke about, we have done two um small school studies and they are both of those reports are on the um website, the Marmac Valley School District website. So, if you go to mvsd.org org and click on the schoolboard tab and then go down to reports what is it reports and studies and um both of those studies are there and you can see but we haven't had a chance to even
064talk about that >> okay and then pardon my ignorance who would I reach out to with just further questions >> you can reach out to me as the school board chair you can reach out to um any of the administrative staff Katherine or Randy or am and um your your representatives in Webster are um Melissa Muzzy um Jessica is the ATL large and David uh Nesbbit is also one of your representatives. >> Awesome. Thank you so much. >> Sure. >> Okay. So, thank you all for your support and interest. Your feedback has a great impact on the budget and warrant that is brought to our annual meeting. The MBSD board will be reconvening their recess January board meeting in a few moments. Please feel free to remain with us for that meeting. Thank you. Tracy,
065>> did we do article seven? We have a taxpayer that is asking about article 7. >> So that's not a warrant where we raise and appropriate funds. So that's not part of the budget hearing itself. >> Okay. You're just >> Yeah. So I would disagree because it is stating that you're going to restrict and take all of the revenues which are part of the budget uh and not put them into the budget and the general uh lines and revenues. So I would disagree. Thank you. Okay, thank you. So, we will reconvene the board meeting from January 5th. Um, handy roll call. Here >> pull it toward you. >> I think I got it that time. Here. >> Is that better? >> Yes. Thank Candy. >> Melissa Melissa Muzzy >> here. >> Jessica Wheeler Russell >>
066here. Laura Vincent >> here. >> David Nesbbit >> here. >> Julia Jones >> present. >> Stacy Jarvis >> here. >> Laura Carile >> here. >> Amanda York. >> Thank you. First is public comment on the agenda items. The Okay. The agenda is discussion of public hearing action on the proposed 2026 27 budget. Those are the only two things on the agenda. Thank you, Noel. I mean, Heather, I don't know why I said that. >> It's been a long day, Heather. >> I'm right there with you. Um, it may not be an agenda. um thing. But for those of us that wa that watch at home, when you go into non-public session, it gets really annoying checking back to see if you've come back to the live feed. Maybe make that first thing or the last
067thing you do. Just >> Thank you. >> Anyone else? public comment. So I'll open it up to discussion of the public hearing then that's for us >> to discuss the public hearing. >> Thank you. >> Sure. Anybody have any comments? >> Would that include all the warrant articles or just the budget? >> No, all of it. >> Yeah. And the the warrant articles. I guess too far away. Can you hear me? >> Bring it closer. >> Um I just I just have questions. But I think maybe if I look at those small school studies because I'm just kind of wondering how how is it going to work for the Webster Salsbury. I'm wondering my head like does Salsbury go to Webster? Does Webster go to Salsbury? I mean, so it would that be part of
068this previous studies? >> So, I can tell you that the the previous studies don't they give options, so they don't dictate what the board should do it. I think the 21 study laid out either four or five options for the board. The board at that time um decided not to look at um consolidating and closing, you know, one or both of the schools. So, that took, I think, three of the options off the table. Um but that study does give give some ideas and some thoughts. They did some uh listening sessions with um folks from both communities u teachers and staff from both communities and uh discussed different things. So for instance, uh making one be uh K2 and one a 35 and and some of those sorts of things. They were looking at uh
069beyond just cost. But that was one of the things from the the 21 study. But that would be something if the board wanted to go in that direction after um after the annual meeting, if the um let's say it was overwhelming um you know from the voters and the board wanted to move in that direction, then um I'm not sure about the the possibility of 2829 as it was listed, but the board would have to look into all of that and um sort of dig into what might be the best um configuration. >> Anyone else? >> Can I jump on article 10? I just have a sure language question, I guess. So, the article reads to see if the district will vote to authorize the SAU school board, 46 school board to update the district
070charter. Pardon me. >> It's I'm I'm reading the first line. I'm trying to understand the article. I think I understand the intent of the article, but the language of the article that says that we would be allowed to update the charter. However, I isn't okay. I need someone to explain to me the process of updating the charter because as far as I understood it, the voting body of the community had to update it. So, this would be out of compliance with law. I'm just I'm really confused. >> I don't think it's the board's um kind of the board's purview to to rate whether the petition warrant articles are legal or anything like that. As as we said, they are advisory. Um I think maybe if the board focuses on, you know, whether the budget and
071the expendable trust and the CBA um and they want to continue moving forward, if they didn't hear anything from the public hearing that would make them want to change, then I think moving ahead with with those and sort of trying to dig into the petition warrant articles that didn't come from this board might be the best uh best thing moving forward. >> Can I ask you? >> Yeah. So, you got um we got warrants here. Uh when did when do we vote on every one of these warrants? As far as tonight goes, it's really just the financial warrants that the board has worked on. So, the really the four that you spoke about in your presentation are the ones that the board will be voting on and and putting forth. Uh there is another warrant
072on there that was added um that we want the board to consider, but that could also be a discussion for Monday night because this is the first time the board is seeing it, although we alluded to it um a couple of meetings ago. and that is the um revolving revenue fund uh involving the learning center. Um, so I think uh really talking about the budget and the CBA maintenance expendable trust and special ed expendable trust so that we can as we have the school board recommends this article so that we can um take that off of the uh or make sure that that's solid that the board agrees with what's being presented for those financial >> soils. Okay. So then on February 9th then the would there be discussion? I know there's five public hearings
073for SP2, >> would there still be a conversation on Monday night on SP2? >> The the board could discuss SP2 if they wanted to uh discuss the the pros and cons of that, but that's by petition as well. Board didn't bring that forward, so they don't have to speak about that. Um although we are going to have to see if we can get a quorum to each of those meetings um on on those five dates that were sent out. Um you know so um but I think we can do that um and legally be fine because we're really just setting up time so it's not we're not conducting business. Um the board knows what those dates are. We were we posted those in the patch uh yesterday so that we could do the seven days
074notice. Um so we will be reaching out for that. Um there's one other potential warn article that could be discussed on Monday night and that is the idea uh behind open enrollment. Um although there are there are things in the legislature that could make any of those moot. Um so that would be a discussion for the board. But um so really that revolving revenue fund um would be after tonight. But I think tonight um because we presented the four financial warrants, I think the board should weigh in on each of those and >> Okay. And then Monday night have further discussion on the warrants we don't vote for tonight and dedicate that time for that. >> Yeah. Except the petition warrant articles. Those aren't really for the >> We don't vote. We wouldn't vote on
075SP2. >> Yeah. >> Okay. But we could we could talk about all of them. >> Oh, yeah. So, let's get let's talk about article four. So, article four is the um [clears throat] the budget itself 51,893,330. So I um I need a motion. I would like a motion um to approve the amount David Nesbbit and Amanda York. So, a motion made by David Nesbbit to approve uh the budget of 51,893,330 and seconded by Amanda York. So, let's have discussion about that. I didn't hear anybody I didn't hear any um anybody say anything that they thought that this was uh a bad amount. Um I think Tom did a great job um pointing out all the things that were in the budget and um you know we spent a long time on it and there were
076people at all of those there were there were town people and also um other board members who spent time at those meetings. Um I I think that this is probably what we go forward with. Anybody have any else that anybody have? David, >> just very briefly, I think that the process um of the as many meetings as we had open to the public and the outreach by the schoolboard members um to each of the communities. I think it's going to go a long way hopefully to having this approved by the communities and my hat is off to the finance committee for their hard work on this. >> Thank you. the presentations on on the website and everything. Thank you. It's really been it's been helpful for me too to just look at it. It's very
077clear and concise and it makes a lot more sense to me than sometimes these massive >> Thank you. >> I was just going to say I agree with um this amount. I do agree with what you said that we weren't hearing from the public um any major concerns or challenges in terms of like where this number came from. So I do think our communication out has been much improved. >> Um and I support us >> going forward. >> And to say for the finance committee, I mean we we had a lot of we didn't always agree. That's for sure. Right. You know, and uh sometimes you you know we we came to consensus and I said this at the board meeting, if we all did it independently, we'd all have five different budgets. But um
078it was it was really nice working with with the four other people andbody everybody contributed and you know it's hard and I think it's important to say that you know I would love this budget to be 1% one and a half percent but the reality is it does cost money to educate kids and I think that this budget I feel very good about this budget and the fact that there's not places to to take money from we didn't add anything there's no new positions and we didn't add you know 17 of those positions aren't back in Um, it was it it it's a challenge to put a school budget together and I thought I was very happy with with all the contributions from everybody on the stage. So, thank you. >> Anyone else have anything
079to say about article 4? All right, then I will uh all those in favor of article 4 say I. I. >> Any opposed? >> Any abstain? Okay. Okay. Article five um is the collective bargaining agreement with the Marramac Valley Education Association. Um again, I didn't hear it. Uh can I have a motion? >> I'll make a motion that >> Yes. >> I make a motion we approve article five as written. >> And um Julia second. Julia raised her hand. >> Sorry. Julia seconded. Um, all right. Now we can discuss. So, go ahead. Would you want to speak to your article? >> Um, again, I didn't really hear anything that was concerning um from the audience. I think that we spent a long time working with our staff. Um, and that, you know, um, there really
080isn't much more to say. Anybody else? David, >> just very briefly, uh, as a newbie on the board, it's my first time sitting in on the negotiations and I was impressed, uh, by the way that the two sides interacted with each other with mutual respect, uh, with a lot of give and take. Um, certainly a lot less antagonism than I've seen in similar situations elsewhere. So, I again, tip of the hat to the negotiating team and to the members of the U teaching community. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else? All right, then. Let's vote. All those [clears throat] in favor of Oops. Article five say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Okay, then. A article no. Article eight. Um, the maintenance Nope, I lied. Is the special ed expendable trust fund $500,000 to be
081added? Um, can I have a motion for that? Melissa seconded by David. >> I thought you raised your hand, David. >> I did. >> Okay. >> Sheesh. [laughter] >> In favor of this. >> Okay. You want to speak to this, Melissa? >> Um, just recognizing that special ed is one of those things that, like has already been said, changes on a daily basis. It is crucial that we not have this at a zero balance. And so putting back in what we had to take out last year seemed like the most reasonable and um smart decision to make when we were coming up with that number. Um it could not be enough um at some point, but um it is a really great place to start and I do appreciate that we are not that we've
082changed the wording on this article so that it is a funded account versus if there's money left over because It's crucial that we protect uh the district in ter and the taxpayers in terms of like not having to keep going back for more money to cover expenses. So, thank you. Anyone else? All right. Seeing no one else. Uh then all those in favor of article eight say I. >> I. >> Any oppose? Any obstain? Okie do. Article nine is the maintenance expendable trust fund. Um raising $200,000. Um I would need a motion. Laura made by Laura. Seconded by Laura. Thank you. Um anybody want to speak to that? I know that we um Oh, sorry. Well, I just so I understand it though this is separate from the CIP. So this is you know, a
083trust fund. So, again, we're trying to build up so that >> we can afford to do some of these projects that need >> that are on the CIB. Yes. Um, and I know that we spent a long time discussing how much we should add to this. Um, and realizing that there is 800,000 in there. We added 200,000 so we could make it a even million. Um, I don't know. We talked for a long time and talked about it here. Is it enough? Maybe, maybe not. And we something like the maintenance expendable trust probably. We will never know if we've got enough money or not. And but we can continue to try and fund keep building that fund so that in case something happens, we have it there. >> Yeah. Part of that conversation too is
084the realization we got four warrants. >> Okay. >> Four warrants of the >> financial warrants. So we had to >> Right. We talked about >> we got a little closer. >> Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. We have four four financial warrants and we got a put a half a million dollars in there. We felt it wouldn't pass. So we something that we felt would would work for the community. >> Anyone else? I was going to say something similar to town, but the idea of like we are being conscious of the impact on taxpayers with these funds and so we did put a lot of conversation into this one in particular because we initially started with a higher number. >> Yes. >> Um because we do recognize that there are a lot of very expensive projects
085coming up. But we also know this district does a really good job with looking for grants and other funding sources whenever we can and we're going to continue to do that work. So this seemed like the most reasonable dollar amount to support trying to keep that overall number for taxpayers reasonable. >> Yes. >> Anyone else? >> As a Pentagon resident, I thank you for that. [laughter] >> Okay, then. Uh all those in favor of article nine say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Any abstain? Okay. Yep. So, um before we move on, um so the SB2 warrant article, uh [clears throat] petitioned warrant article, it requires us to go out to every every town to um explain what the SB2 um warrant article means to the district. And so we have Louden Elementary School on
086Wednesday, February 11th. I can be there. >> What time, please? >> 5:30. >> Do we um do we need to have a quorum? >> We do need to have a quorum. >> I will make all of these. >> I can be there. >> Jessica, David, >> this is Wednesday. >> Wednesday the 11th. Um, we are good if all these people show. >> We're good and loud. >> Uh, next night, Thursday the 12th, >> um, Webster, >> um, >> same time, right? >> Same. Same that time. So, Melissa, [sighs] yep. Stacy, Jess, David, me. >> I could pro I'm thinking this like I don't know how long the meeting will go because I'm thinking I might have to leave early. It it shouldn't take long. >> So I I think I can >> I'll be there.
087>> Lorna and Tom. >> And then Friday, [snorts] February 13th. Friday the 13th. >> March. >> Tom Julia. >> Salsbury. Sorry. [laughter] Just show up somewhere. I Um like yikes, everybody wants to go to that one. Sally, Jess, Stacy, Melissa, and Lorna. >> Um then Monday, February 16th is at um Boswin or Boswine. >> Bosow, >> same bat time, 5:30. David, Jess, Stacy, Laura, Sally, Laura. >> Yep, we're good. >> Yep. >> And then the 17th is right here at the high school. Same bat time. Lorna. Um, wow. David, Jess, Stacy, Laura, and Melissa. >> I might show it. And >> question please. Will this be at town offices or where will we be? >> No, at the school. >> At the schools. Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Can you just elaborate on what
088the hearing is? Is we were supposed to explain to the public what SP2 means and then your feedback or >> so um for the official ballot referendum otherwise known as SP2. This was petitioned by um someone from the community with the appropriate number of signatures and we have to have a hearing in each of the towns and then it's really just about um explaining what SP2 is answer some questions if we can uh get it. But as far as the board's role is to hear input from the public if they have any similar to tonight except it's not about money. It's really just about how how voting occurs. So instead of where we had the public hearing and then we vote in March at an annual meeting where we're all together, SP2 has a deliberative
089session and then from that deliberative session, folks don't come back together after that deliberative session and they go to the polls to vote. So that's the kind of the difference. There's still two meetings. It's just how those meetings are structured. So we'll um there'll be a script and uh you know Tracy can go through that information. We'll have information provided to describe um you know what what SP2 is and sort of the process and then um that's it. In the past, last time we had this was in 2022 and we had some of these public hearings where no one showed up and we had some where half a dozen people showed up. Um you know, >> the last time was 2022. And um it was there were 244 people voted and um we would have
090needed 146 of those in the positive and um 40 54 >> 54 voted yes and the rest voted no. So it didn't pass and it can come back every couple of years. >> Every two years can come back. Any other questions? >> Okay. >> Yes, Laura. >> I know microphone. >> I don't I know we're not really talking about tonight, but we have our article uh seven. >> We'll be talking about that on Monday, Laura. >> And it and I'm looking at that and the petition one article contradicts it. Article 11. So what happens if they both pass or whatever? I'm just kind of wondering. I don't you don't have to answer tonight. >> Yeah. No, no, we'll be talking about that on Monday. >> Answer that question. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> Um, so
091as far as the revolving fund, that's a a warrant that the board is putting forth, an article that the board would putting forth. If that passes, we would be setting up that revenue fund for that specific purpose. Uh regardless of what happened with article 11, which is advisory only, we would already have that fund if that passes. Um essentially that fund is um asking to take out of district money. So non Marramac Valley money, putting it in a fund and using that to do the improvements at the Marramac Valley Learning Center. Um so that we're not tapping into the CIP um for improvements to that building. That was the that was the purpose of us putting that uh warrant forth for discussion. >> I I felt like that was what we discussed in the past
092at our previous meetings was we were looking for it not to impact the budget. >> Yep. >> Okay. Next on the agenda, uh public comment, Bill Hines, Posin. I I guess I'm right on time because you were talking about the article that's got my attention and I realize you don't want to talk about it tonight, but I got to tell you that does affect the taxpayer. You say it doesn't affect the budget, but you're taking money directly away from the taxpayer. That is revenue that would come in and lower the overall impact to the taxpayer. And I just got to say, if everything passes, we're at 6.3%. That's a lot. And this would just add to it. And I think we know it's about $490,000 for the seven students. So that's the 100% of the
093revenue that I think that this is pointing to for the learning center. That's an impact. Um it's it's a lot. And if you live in Penuk, there's going to be some pretty unhappy people. Uh that's $1,100 that I saw on that sheet that they're going to go up. That's over what they paid last year. Um I I this is a poison pill to me this particular article. Thank you. >> Thank you >> Spencer Dickinson Penuk. Um is it really only take 25 people to get a petition warrant? Is that by law or is it >> Yes. In the charter? >> Yes. No, it's by law. Dave Hewayy Webster again just quickly uh mentioned on article 7 uh a question uh maybe not specific here but with article 7 you're talking about taking the revenues uh
094which I just heard a number kind of spitball what are we talking for the actual estim estimated revenues per year and what are the uh amounts or number of years before you're expecting to be able to use those for the improvements because if I remember correctly from watching the board meeting when you decided that you did want to uh do the improvements to the school, we were talking about millions of dollars for one particular project like the elevator. So where do those line up? Will this article even cover it or does it just mean we're taking revenues and still not being able to do the work? >> Thank you, David. Um, public public comment is a time for you to comment. It's not time for us to have a discussion. If you would like to
095reach out to either your representative or to somebody in the SAU, I would appreciate it and um we can get back to you on that. But we will also be discussing it on Monday. Anyone else? Public comment. >> Okay, >> just our meeting on Monday is at 6. >> No, it's at our normal time >> which is >> 6:30. >> Okay. I can't. [laughter] all over the place. >> Okay. Motion to adjurnn. >> Thank you, Jessica. Motion to adjurnn. >> We're ajourned. >> Thank you.