001sure check check for two chip check my two check one two three one two foreign thank you foreign thank you check number two thank you good morning everyone this meeting is being held in compliance with the open public meetings act and is open to the media and Public Notices were duly posted and the meeting was advertised in the Hunterdon County Democrat and Courier News formal action may be taken can I get a roll call please Ryan yeah here for example here [Music] Dr unk all right yo good evening everyone tonight is the second to last stop in preparing our budget for next school year uh which eat with each one of our meetings um I've talked about adjacent I've talked about the budget process which really starts in October when we provide all the budget
002managers the principals the supervisors our facilities manager um with their budget parameters for next school year we meet with them throughout the month of December in January we meet with the finance committee February we have the school Award of Education meetings um where we present different departments and their budgets this is the second and last stuff that stop but this is really the critical moment because this is the culmination of everything that you put together up to this point in terms of preparing your budget we have to the best of our knowledge all of the numbers we have our tax lending increases State a numbers we have everything to present to you tonight for our budget for the 2023-2024 school year and it's hard to believe that we're already in the 23 24. school year
003as well so um our budget goals each year when we sit down with the administration and then with you to present a budget for the following school year we do so with certain goals in mind first we like to present a budget within the two percent State imposed cap on the tax levy with allowable adjustments those allowable adjustments include things like a health care adjustment or an enrollment adjustment which is the state giving us the ability to raise the taxes Beyond two percent if needed to adjust for increased costs of health care or increased enrollment that we may experience due to housing developments secondly in a Segway we have to prepare for enrollment increases from the new Housing Development so the Willows is complete and we have students enrolled in our district from The Willows
004and currently being built is the rigid Reddington and we anticipate those students arriving in our district by the summer we want to balance our class sizes with scheduling efficiencies and we'll have a slide about class size we of course want to enrich students academic experiences and we want to adhere to our district strategic plan with three goals which we talk about periodically throughout board meetings which include inquisitive learning social awareness and our partnership so we keep all of these things in mind as we meet with each other over the course of the fall and into the winter and then with you so our enrollment forecasts for 23-24 so our total anticipated moment is about 1506 students and this is anticipated there's a couple of factors that we take into consideration here first is the number
005of out of District students as well as preschool students this is and we can project five out of District students based off of our current enrollment but when it comes to preschool students this is an estimate we presume 134 kindergarten students in District this is based off of our current kindergarten enrollment but as of March 10th you'll see that there were 60 students registered for Three Bridges and 65 register for white now parents and families have between now and September 1st to register your child so these numbers can fluctuate college students that don't come there are likely more students that have not yet registered in our district that will come so we anticipate those numbers going up northward of about 70 students each at Three Bridges in big house this also anticipates 111 new students
006from The Ridge at Reddington and this is based off of the Rutgers formula as well as the Willows projections that we made for the ridge of Redington so if for example this is just hypothetical we achieve all of the students that we anticipate after the rigid writing team is built the likely largest capacity of enrolled students that we would have next year or maybe even in the second year would be about 111 new students across our entire district grades k through eight so that's nine grade levels we did include them on our projection if in the event all 111 students arrive in our district so we are prepared for that if we um and our current enrollment is 1420 which is includes our seven out of District students and you can see that the real
007game changer here is that 111 potential students from The Ridge at Reddington um those are the students that may push us above 1500 students next year um here's our enrollment history with our projection here so what this gives you is our actual enrollment Jason this is based off of the October 15th Assa account correct yes so October 15th is a key date in public education that's when we do what we call the October 15th count so this is the official count by the state that provides them with our enrollment numbers you'll see that this is actually up until the 23-24 school year these are actual enrollment numbers from October 15th you'll see in 2122 that there was a little bit of an increase that's an enrollment adjustment that we received a couple of years ago
008if we wanted to go beyond the two percent tax lending that little bump in student enrollment provided that for we anticipated in 2223 that we would we would have the rich build it's a little bit behind schedule so you'll see a little bit of an enrollment and decrease but we're starting to see students move into our district and move into The Ridge at Reddington currently I think we projected 10 currently for March here but I think it's up to 12. most recently Jason yeah and the 22-23 school year dot that you see the decline there excludes all 12 that moved in so that line actually would have been flat because the count is as of October okay um and then 23 24 you see that big increase because that includes the projection from the new
009Housing Development as well so if hypothetically we get all 111 students that we anticipate that's approximately where our enrollment would look um we want to show you the anticipated Elementary class size um the goal for grades and we don't project kindergarten here because we're not quite sure exactly how many kindergarten students will have but those numbers are here 60 and 65 currently through riches and White House respectively knowing that we'll probably get more um and you'll see each of the class sizes at each grade level so for example just grade one there are four teachers in grade one at Three Bridges there are five at White House in grade one so you see if you take the number of students enrolled at Three Bridges divide by four you get approximately 15 students per class you
010take the number of students enrolled at White House divide by five you get approximately students in each class um we projected this and we've added staff in order to absorb any students that may come from the rigid Remington again purely hypothetical numbers but let's say those 111 students do come in an Ideal World maybe they're divided equally among nine grade levels so that would give us about 12 additional students at each grade level and then you take those 12 students and you put you know two or one depending on how many teachers at each in each class so for example at White House school if you have 12 students in grade one well then you have the ability to take all 12 of those students and divide them on five different teachers adding two maybe
011three to each class so 15 could look like 17 or 18 by the end of the school year um will it work out that way no they'll probably all come in one great level of the all-grade four you know we'll get 16 in grade four or something like that but that's what we're looking at and we try to keep some parity between Three Bridges and white houses as well we don't have one School in our district to have significantly higher block sizes than the other by the time we get to grade four we have ever been Under One Roof here at Holland Brook so we've seen class sizes 20 and 19. um a couple of highlights for you um I'm going to start with a personnel and curriculum and beautiful services and then I'll get
012to turn it over to Jason to talk about some capital projects uh we've done quite a bit of expansion of Staff over the past year that we have to also include in our budget for next year this expansion includes our four police officers through the shared service agreement with the township there's one police officer in each building for safety and security purposes uh we are adding an Elementary art teacher and this past year we added a grade level teacher at Holland Brook School due to an increased enrollment from the new housing developments when we talk about the Elementary art teacher those of you who are on the board this time last year we talked about adding another part-time PE teacher and other part-time music teacher so remember when I told you about White House School
013there are five teachers in each of the grade levels in grade one two and three at White House school this is an increase from two years ago when they were four and then there's also an additional teacher at Hollenberg school all of these students in grade one and two and three and four go to Art they go to music they go to PE well right now we're sharing um to our teachers between all three of our elementary buildings which is inefficient for scheduling um and does not maximize student contact time well last year we added in this year we're having the art teacher last year we added a music teacher and future for the scheduling efficiencies we've also added a new behavioral disabilities program teacher and preschool disabilities program teacher as well these are currently
014this year that we have to build into the budget for next year we've expanded our English language learner teacher from part-time to full-time we've created a part-time curriculum office Secretary of position we've reallocated the teaching staff position to accommodate some of these additional needs and we've increased wages for substitute teachers due to the state minimum wage we've increased wages for bus drivers in order to be competitive and align with the market and we've added in a little bit of money just a couple of thousand dollars for Recruitment and Retention services and statements for example stipends or gifts things that we can give to our employees as a thank you to them as well as any services that we might want to try in the future this past year we piloted an agency to help us
015with some Communications media Communications to get the word out about job openings so we're going to look to see if we wanted to continue that in the future we've built in some contingency into our budget for personnel under curriculum and people services we've expanded some special education programs having self-contained these are considered self-contained programs behavioral disabilities and preschool disabilities programs having them in District provides a great deal of benefits one benefit that we put here is this saves the district and cost of sending students to an out of District placement that includes transportation and out of District tuition but even better what this provides for our district is the ability for students with disabilities to stay within our district and be educated with their peers they can you know have the same friends from the
016neighborhood and see them in school and sit with them at lunch and go to art class and use a class with them and this is called the least restrictive environment it's our effort to provide the least restrictive environment where where our goal would be to keep our students with disabilities as integrative as possible with their general education leaders we're gonna we've expanded our extended school year program this is for students with literacy disabilities other disabilities like students that receive Services through speech or learning a language disabilities program our life skills program we've enhanced our after school student intervention activities through the YMCA Huntington Learning Center virtual homework help we've added some Mental Health Services through community behavioral health and employee assistance program as well both of those programs are paid through the srarp fund the
017equivalent Federal funding from the government we have also um peeved some work with our strategic plan this year where we have provided some additional curriculum writing time for the teachers to integrate sustainability programs climate education SEL inquiry field trips we have a directory of Partnerships all of this is found on our website and we've provided the teachers with some stipends to integrate all of this into the curriculum and we've continued work toward our strategic plan which many of you saw and the board tours so I'll turn it up are there any questions for me we can take questions later at the end too but is there any question on any one of these slides as I try to go from Jason to talk about capital projects um so I'm in the district around five years
018and during that time we've done about eight million dollars in capital projects all that has been funded outside the tax level increases through Capital reserves that we've sought going over the years and that is a tremendous accomplishment done by the finance committee as well as a green committee through DPA agreements I know things that don't impact the tax levy compared to surrounding districts you know Flemington North 100 worries who have done referendums which have increased attacks that we dramatically so we've been cognizant to try to keep the tax study low while still maintaining our building your grounds so we've recently accomplished finishing the roof at Hamburg School and we are now moving over for products next year the roof at the reading through Middle School so we are planning on doing the back gym as
019well as the art room at reading through Middle School including the in the gymnasium in the back we are going to install HVAC so that is one of the few areas where we do not have air conditioning so we are going to add that capability to the back gym one of the other big things that we've been doing over the past couple years is on bathrooms so we have redone the bathrooms at the elementary schools at White House and Three Bridges as well as now uh we could do the head of Bradington Middle School uh now we are moving on to adding bathrooms and we're adding bathrooms of all the elementary schools mainly because of changes in student population Dr Hart mentioned move-ins primarily in the White House school region but there's also changing Dynamic
020of student population that demand more bathrooms in the classrooms they keep up with the needs of the students so we're going to be doing bathroom editions that old elementary schools it'll probably be around four bathrooms in total one of the other things that the green committee has um being prevalent with exploring is solar we've had a solar PPA agreement for five years now I've been saved the district's hundreds hundreds of thousands of dollars we're looking to expand solar or recently pass the resolution to do so so we're in the process of doing that right now we also got a grant from the state previously to do LED lighting at the White House and Three Bridges uh 80 of the cost of that was funded by the state we are now doing that for Holland Brook
021and Readington Middle School unfortunately we cannot qualify for a grant for that due to how those grants function uh so we're gonna be doing that in-house but that should save the district about ten thousand dollars a year moving forward but once it's completed other things we're doing is phones and security upgrades I.T back-end you know some oil repairs concrete repairs basic things security enhancements that are reviewed as part of a board executive session this past summer as well as in the finance committee one of the other things that we are focusing though on which Dr Hart mentioned is a staff retention and recruitment so we are redoing the staff lounges at all four buildings uh there is a committee that has been formed at each building level to redesign those staff lounges White House is
022pretty much done to this point that was actually done last summer but RMS I just had the meeting with the very and say they have large diagrams and um items picked out for their staff Lounge so a lot of excitement around that but this is just some of the capital projects that are undergoing we're going to be doing around 1.7 million dollars in capital projects about 40 of the bathroom and roof projects will be funded by the state so I just want to mention that if we get those grants for Rod grants that would be about 350 000 that will come back to the district next school year um going to actual budget itself our budget is primarily salary benefits and that's pervasive if you look at the County as well as the township salaries
023and benefits are the vast majority of the cost 84 of our costs are salaries and benefits so as salaries go up higher than two percent as benefits go up higher than two percent those blue slices will grow and if you recall if you've been on the board for a while those slices you speak 79 then they were 81 82 now 384 probably be 86 the next year or two so the other discretionary or non-discretionary items that have already colors are shrinking so we do our best to um keep programs and Staffing levels up to the degree possible to not impact students and we have been trying to squeeze the other areas of the budget to maintain the tax value being reasonable but absorb large increases at three percent or higher this slide in thicker shows
024how costs have gotten dramatically increased over the years health benefits in the district cost five million dollars right now you can see those have gone up around 70 percent over the past 10 years we have salaries which is the other big portion gone up on average around three uh to 3.2 percent over the past 10 years versus our tax levy the board was committed to almost a zero percent tax levy uh for about a decade prior to 2016-17 which is why they dip down there you'll see and then due to the inability to maintain programs and Staffing uh we have started slowly raising the tax Levine um starting in the 2018 school year um which will go over the history of that next little slides so this is state aid and tax levy this is
025total tax money so state aid has gone up it's about up three hundred thousand dollars um tax Lobby is about as well and we'll go through the percentages in a second so a lot of our state aid increase has been due to something called S2 and other districts that have lost money uh that percentage has shifted to Redington um so that's something that's happened over the past four years and the last year of that is next year um so I anticipate that we'll start leveling off in the state data over time um but the overall tax levy um you'll see in a couple slides is pretty reasonable and has been reasonable um compared to costs uh tax study Debt Service so we have no control over this this is the original referendum done over a
026decade ago and any decrease you see there is when the board has sponsored re-financing of the debt and we can only refinance that if we actually save two percent or more so you can see the large chunks um 2122 get a large increase in The Debt Service that actually refunded that back to the taxpayers the following year um so we get back 136 000 in budget that year back to the taxpayers without raising that but this coming year it's a point one percent increase so very minor total taxes though but this is this is what really people care about is how much your taxes going up New Jersey is unique where local taxes fund the school districts unlike other states um in other states it's funded by the county or the state government um so
027that's why our local property taxes are so high in comparison to other states but you can see that the proposal for or to vote preliminary on tonight is a 2.6 tax level increase that is up slightly and that's primarily due to Rising costs of inflation Health salaries everything is compounding and it is challenging to keep the budget low without doing constitute programs at 10 salaries which make up the vast majority of our budget so what does this mean for the average taxpayer um it's 154 increase if your home is worth on value 464 000. now that increases up compared to last year and that primarily is due to the Merrick Unicom land and building being um the township has lost the tax appeal for that property and do that valuations you know get one down
028and the share of burden of taxes has shifted to homeowners private business so that's why that is up a little bit higher so valuations on overall or down but local homeowners is up because of that there's also pilot programs in the district where certain houses do not contribute to overall tax levy so you know the people that are homeowners in town are going to be paying more just because of that and this is history um you can see the revaluation 2122 and that is why the tax rate changed dramatically and we will have lived in town for three years probably saw that at that time your tax secret went up down and flat and it was a one-time adjustment perpetuity you'd probably be adjusted minor on the other industry any questions Jason the Solar projects
029so that's going to um that's going to break even at some point or expecting a benefit from that so with solar refinance that through a purchase power agreement so there'll be no impact to the tax study the way it works is all the fees relating to that the architect a lawyer on the Cardinal too will probably be 150 to 200 000 in total um when we go out to bid for solar the winning contractor watching the check so we will pay the architect and the attorney based on that and the vendor will install everything at their cost and instead of paying the utilities directly you um jcpml on PSEG we will pay the contractor who built the solar it's at a reduced trade lower than the utility rate so the district over 15 years saves
030the difference between the utility rate and the solar PPA rate so it may end up being something like 12 to 15 000 per year will save once we hit year 15 and that we pay off what we owe to the contractor you're 16 through 25 we get energy basically for free because we have paid off the contractor the contractor goes away we own the panels they're warranty for 25 years okay um and another question about the 40 000 to the law firm I mean you want me to wait until we talk about the finance report and they're just the first time seeing it I didn't it seemed excessive to pay but are we actually paying that or something getting that through a grant we will be paying the Forty thousand dollars if you were to
031prove it um this evening they are proposing eight months of installing payments for that the Forty thousand dollars would be based on when you get out the solar so solar will give us a check back for eighty thousand dollars so the vendor will actually be paying for a bar attorney for the PPA so the Forty thousand dollars we will upfront pay over eight months and then the contractor probably in July or August will actually send us a check to cover the Forty thousand dollars but what is that for actually drafting up the uh the actual bid that we had to put out to solicit as well as when we receive bids they will review them for responsiveness and then they'll go through and establish a committee to evaluate who we would pick for a vendor
032they will actually review to make sure we didn't violate any statutes all right it's not complex but that's it is and that's why it seems like a lot it is a lot um if you compare that to our forwarding hour bills who is our attorney um that annually is around 70 000 and this one project is 40. so in comparison to that it is a lot but compared to what we paid seven years ago when we did the original PPA that was in the ballpark of like 75 000. um so you know it's cheaper than it was seven years ago but in terms of work um it's complex so it's a minor amount of paperwork but complexity of rules and statute thank you now it's been said about the two percent cap so that we
033don't have to go out um uh to the taxpayers but looking at the total it says total taxes including Debt Service is 2.642 so does that mean we're above the two percent um so no it does mean obviously we are allowed to go over two percent based on allowable adjustments and Dr Hart mentioned those that we qualify sometimes for adjustments to go over two percent based on the state law if we have an enrollment Bond meaning that we have to plan for those students those students may need additional teachers or resources the state acknowledges that allows to go over two percent without a vote in our situation this time we have not used that enrollment adjustment we didn't use it last year the board wanted to go up uh 1.9 last year we didn't use
034that last year this year we are not using that again we have left that as Bank cap we are using a healthcare adjustment so this year health benefits at the state level went up 15 and for municipalities 120 percent so if you imagine our bill is five million dollars if we got a 20 increase that would be a million dollars uh that is more than we could raise in taxes as you can see from this slide um so that's the world we're living in now we've qualified for that because our anticipate increases not 20 um that is actually still being bid out but you've qualified based on the budget to have a little cushion to try to absorb the large increase that is coming and then my second question too um we haven't I know
035we're doing the negotiations this year um and that hasn't been settled so what impact is that going to have to all these numbers on this page so we have calculated in the budget an increase uh the negotiations team is aware of what is in the budget to help with negotiations um but if negotiations do not fall within those parameters it may result in more negotiating being necessary because we cannot go above the two percent cap with adjustments um so it's just a restriction that we have that the state imposes on us so this is a final estimate it's really not the final final that's great okay thank you any other questions um that's another question on the uh the health the health care costs you know you they keep going up um and remind me
036is that just solely the costs are going up or is there I thought I remember back when I was on the finance committee a discussion about more mandated benefits is there actual additional benefits that are being provided or just the costs are going up to divide the same benefits because I couldn't recall it's it's both so you're correct it's the health percentage that you see on this chart is an actual increase in the cost that is being passed on by the provider so that's the cost that State Health Plan went up by 15 percent um however our district in particular is getting impacted by a law called chapter 44 which mandated mandated by stable a shift in benefit level for all new staff members after 2020. and because of that shift um people qualify for
037a higher level of coverage than we have negotiated locally because of that is detrimental to what we collect from employees from their contributions um so we have a separate deficit that we're experiencing in our budget because of that okay so it's a double-edged storm so to speak the employees are getting additional health benefits like there are a group that are getting additional benefits and they're paying less okay thank you you have a question well thank you appreciate it thank you Jason that's everything from superintendent's record all right thank you very much we are now open to the public limited to action items on the agenda all right moving on uh we had correspondence we had emails regarding um the book foreign action uh can I get a motion to adopt 1.01 through 1.02 approval of
038administrative reports any questions or comments not hearing any going to get a roll call please it's better yeah yeah yes Mrs Spencer yes Mr speech Yes mrski yes is Ryan Yes is Wolf yes example yes uh moving on to approval of minutes can I get a motion to adopt 2.01 through 2.02 so move back second Randy any questions or comments all right can I get a roll call please this is better one yes this is Fjord yes Mrs Spencer yes speech um yes this is bugorski yes is Ryan yes as well yes example yes moving on to finance facilities can I get a motion to adopt 3.01 through 3.17 thank you and we have a committee report thank you so the committee met on Wednesday March 8th at 9 A.M uh one was the budget
039update state aid our district received an increase in state aid of 269 000 for a total of 2.4 million Health adjustment 305 000 allowance to increase local taxes above the two percent cap chapter 44 407 000 detriment and capital meeting for future years was 257 000 inflation pressures to consider school bus cost 30 000 increase in quoted cost versus budgeted value insurance expecting significant increases for health in April and general reliability May due to a surcharge for not being in state plan negotiation substitute cost bids Etc March 14th is a presentation and preliminary vote by the Board of Ed to send draft budget to the county office budget presentation includes revenues Appropriations tax levy enrollment Etc proposed budget includes the general funds of approximately 32.3 million and state aid of approximately 2.4 million tax levy
040of 2.6 April 25th will be the vote by the board event on the final budget May publication and newspaper on budget proposed bus driver guide Branchburg settlement table to April will also discuss incentives proposed cafeteria Aid guide cafeteria AIDS are funded through cafeteria funds there is no impact to tax levy due to minimum wage increases in inflation the new proposed salary guide included a dollar 25 raise hour a dollar 25 hour raise it was agreed we accept the new salary guide proposed substitute pay guides surrounding areas due to minimum wage increases inflation and competition from surrounding districts it was proposed that we increased our daily substitute rate for teachers from 110 a day to 125 a day paraprofessionals from 95 a day to 105 a day clerical Aid secretaries custodians from 105 a day to
041120 a day and School nurses will remain the same at 225 a day the committee agreed with these changes solar PPA attorney discussion regarding hiring a CSG Law Group which specializes in renewable energy and sustainability and recommended by our trusted architect Senator Marino at a cost of forty thousand for services for our district-wide solar project it was agreed that we move in this direction this amount will be paid by the winning vendor for the project climate change ran 6660 a hollingbrook teacher Mrs Ed Hikari discovered this grant which can be applied to any sustainability outdoor initiatives and or supplies including butterfly gardens gardening supplies and Lego kits School Bus tracking app committee agreed to not move forward with this idea due to negative feedback from the district which piloted the program including unreliable tracking poor
042self-service safety concerns costs likely 14 to 25 000 annually plus initial setup hardware and long-term maintenance other considerations reliability self-service safety low-income ESL technology Budget Finance agenda items bills list budget presentation resolutions solar lrfps State submittal resolution next meeting is planned for April 21st at 9 00 am and May 21st at 9 am any questions or comments on the minutes or the action items all 17 of them I just I'm sorry I just had a quick question with the cafeteria Aid guide and the The Substitute hey guy um are those how are those handled before is this something completely narrow or is this um a guide that was there and we're just updating it these guides currently exist and we discussed in finance's updates to these guides um all three of them good bus drivers
043cafeteria AIDS and substitute and the one that we are still discussing is the bus driver guide but they currently exist and we're just making adjustments to them thank you you're welcome I'm sorry this is the sort of this is to approve the advantage right now um to release yes this is the tenant budget that allows us to submit everything that we presented tonight to the county for their review for them final budget approval on April 25th some of the stuff we're hearing for the first time you can vote Yes tonight and raise go raise things right okay any other questions or comments all right can I get a vocal please yes he's curious yes this is Memphis yes speech yes he's progorski yeah yeah he's running yes this is what yeah example yes moving on
044to education technology can I get a motion to about 4.01 through 4.05 remove that second Carolyn and we have a committee report yes we do um the edtech committee met on March 10th the first item we discussed was the tier three mental health and Hunter and behavioral health program at right into Middle School Mr Tumalo and Miss Harris gave the presentation to the committee on the school-based counseling services provided at RMS in partnership with Huntington Behavioral Health funded through Federal Esther funds the program has received positive feedback from students staff and parents there is a need for expanding the program since it is currently at capacity the recommendation is to increase counseling services to five days at RMS next year next we discuss the parent Academy agenda Mrs cryo gave an update on the schedule
045of workshops and student presentations that are planned for Parent Academy night this event will be held on Tuesday March 28th from 6 to 8 pm at Hollenberg School a registration link has been sent to All parents via Genesis registration closes on March 15th although I do think there's an email that it was extended I don't know when next Thursday is the 23rd okay that sounds right extended to the 23rd um next we discuss the mid-year diagnostic diagnostic data Dr Brown and Miss pouch presented the midyear I ready diagnostic data to the committee overall the district has exceeded the mid-year 50 percent growth Target for each grade level which is a fantastic achievement students are steadily closing the learning gaps caused by the pandemic when we discussed a brief update from Dr Hart about the YMCA
046after school clubs for grades K-5 and Huntington Learning Center tutoring that's for grades six through eight both of them were recently introduced the YMCA clubs have been very well attended the Huntington Learning Center tutoring has fluctuated in attendance a more thorough report will be given to the committee at the close of the programs um next we discuss the climate awareness education grant which Miss Ryan had discussed um the state of New Jersey Department of Education Grant of 6660 according to our agenda um this is to be used this fiscal year the district plans to use the funds for HBS environmental resources professional development in the area of sustainability and other items tied to the curriculum including student supplies curriculum materials Lego kits items to enhance wildlife habitats at the schools our next meeting for April
04720th at 8 30 A.M thank you Mrs Fury are there any questions or comments on the report or the action items I just have a question on the field trip for Holland broken says approximate cost of parent is fifty dollars how do we handle that for uh families that financially if you can provide that because that seems like a bit of a cost for a field trip uh there's a way we handle that through the School nurses and the business office um so we will be able to cover those costs can I just add something quickly about that field trip I had similar question this is actually the river trip it's a location change so they're going to dwarf Farm in the spring so it's a same that cost was actually from the beginning of
048the year so there's no additional cost so that was already paid out so it's a it's a two-part trip and then the educators are in the classroom and working with the students throughout the whole year so thank you smarter Clara I had the same exact question thanks for clarifying yeah let's go hence the asterisk that we added to the agenda any other questions or comments all right can I get a roll call please yes yes Mr speech Yes Mrs yes is Ryan Yes Mrs wolf yes yes moving on to Personnel can I get a motion to adopt 5.01 through 5.06 so move that back in Jennifer and we did not have a committee report um any questions on the action items thank you all right can I get a roll call please this is done
049yes is your yes he's an answer yes speech Yes Ms barborski yes this is Ryan Yes Ms wolf yes example yes uh moving on to communication can I get a motion to about 6.01 and 6.02 so move that second Randy and we had a committee report we did uh the committee met um the commitment on February 27th we've reviewed uh revised by laws policies and regulations with alert 229 um policy and regulation 5200 was on attendance revisions and administrative code section njac 6A 32-8.1 through 8.2 required updates to policy and regulation guides 5200 There are rules for excuse and unexcused absences for reporting absences in the school register affording in accordance with state and federal reporting requirements pursuant to njac 6A 32-8 0.1 through 8.6 and provided in section A of the updated regulation guide
0505200 committee members discussed the distinction between option for the district school district locally and for the school register for state and federal reporting purposes policy guide 5200 also adds the definition of parent and the board of retention in the second paragraph policy and regulation guides 5200 are mandated and must be adopted by the board we also discussed policy 5512 harassment intimidation and bullying we discussed on August 29 2000 2020 after our July Board of Ed meeting where we adopted the most updated hip policy based on revisions to Administrative Code 2017 and revisions to anti-bullying Bill of Rights in January 2022 the njdoe provided districts with an updated model for prohibiting hip therefore another update is being made to incorporate all the minimum model policy language in practice the changes are minimal but the policy guide
0515512 is updated to match the model policy changes include a new njdoe approved reporting forms which are Hib 338 forms and a student intervention plan for a student with an offender in three Hib instances within one school year also discuss policy 8140 student enrollments and regulation 8140 enroll into accounting njac 6A 32-8.1 and 8.2 were recently revised and stress asthma has updated policy and regulation guides 8140 to reflect the changes in Administrative Code regulation guide 8140 has been revised to include the newly created definition days and membership that was added to njac 6A 32-2.1 replacing definition for average daily attendance the requirement to keep separate registers depending on a student's grade or classification has been removed and is reflected in revised policy guide 8140 the equation for calculating average daily attendance has been removed and
052regulation guide 8140 has been revised to reflect this change the data collection process for the application for student school aid has been revised to assign data collection responsibilities to the superintendent or designee and the school business administrator board secretary or designate there are also several minor minor edits to both policy and regulation 8140 to reflect ing the language and nj2-8.1 and 8.2 Palestine regulation guides e140 are mandated also discuss policy and regulation 8330 Student Records recent revisions in Administrative Code section njac 6A 32-2.1 and njac6a32-7.8 required revisions in policy and regulation guides 8330 the revision and policy guide 8330 are minor with most of the changes being in citation and language updates the majority of these revisions are located in the regulation guide 8330 and the regulation guide 8330 has been revised to align with
053the appropriate Administrative Code sections with committee members discussed the changing for changing verbiage from District Board of Education to District because the requirement is Administrative in nature we discussed the school calendar for 2022-2023 and the snow give back day um cell phone policy discussion was tabled to our next meeting due to time so at reviewed advocacy nothing new with teacher retention Dash pensions revision of definition of sick leave under 18a and chapter 44. relevant board goals are to be discussed at the next meeting press release tentative topics included March which is due February 15th and November member bios which has been published summer enrichment for April pupil Services by Mrs beagle and advertise the BIOS wall celebration for May mental health and SEL themed around mental health awareness month from Mr Tumalo and June green
054initiatives how we celebrate Earth Day in April from the green committee chair school principals final budgets for Mr Boom and Governor's educator of the year for Mrs Harris agenda items are policy 5200 attendance policy 5512 Hib policy h140 student enrollments and policy 8330 Student Records our next meeting is scheduled for March 27th at 4 pm thank you [Laughter] any questions or comments on the action items or the minutes is that a one hour committee meeting yeah we decided to go back to 90. [Laughter] well done but there's a lot of code in statute citations in that one uh not hearing any questions just Giggles can I get a roll call please Ms government yes Mr Stewart yes Mentor yes Mrs Beach yes yes this is Ryan Yes is Wolf yeah example yes all right moving
055on to unfinished business um new business from the board I would like to congratulate Jody betterman who has received the new new board member boardsmanship certification congratulations I believe it's it's a certain number of classes that requirements the little credits that you get that qualifies for you and there's like steps that you go through so I know it's a lot of work and thank you thank you nice surprise [Music] and then our May board meeting date which I think is now a non-issue a non-issue conflict resolved May board meeting date remains May 9th no change um any other new business business do I do that now or yes sorry but which is a pro it's oh there's a little number there it was unfinished this was the old sorry I skipped right over that it
056was under this table yes so in regards to the book challenge um having now read the book reread the committee's report listen to the community members and parents um I think we should take it to a vote so I would like to make a motion to remove me Earl and the dying girl from the Readington Middle School library all right um just to restate your motion is to remove me Earl and the dying girl from the RMS Library all right do we have a second all right um so that opens it up for questions or comments from the board I have a question I would like to understand the reasoning behind it what's the um rationale and what has changed since our report in January so I read the book now I went back and
057I read the committee's report and I'm finding it hard to understand how it's at a higher reading level um it's not I think the language in it is awful I don't think it gives any benefit to any student at RMS I don't see why any student should read that book with that language in it a little dramatic thank you um okay so I'm pulling out with good work on purpose because I want to remind you that we have policies that dictate this as a board um as board members we are responsible for making sure that the policies are followed um 9130 is our policy on grievances so really as a governing body we should be looking at that and saying was the policy followed um where all the protocol all the steps taken and if
058yes then you know we have done our jobs as board members to say that that policy has been followed as far as I'm concerned we have done that I also want to remind you I think it is in the resource materials policy 2530 that we can't unilaterally pull a book just because we find it offensive or disagree with it in any way if it qualifies as a valid resource material and there are six reasons of how it would qualify as a resource material we can't just pull the book so we had our born attorney at the January meeting and she discussed this with us and so I feel like I understand that you haven't read the book you hadn't read the book at that point being a new board member so completely understand that point
059of view um but we have these policies in place for a reason and we had our attorney here who basically told us as board members what our responsibilities are and you know the policy was followed everything was you know above board and I just feel like if you um have a problem with that that you're not upholding your code of ethics as a board member to follow our policies so I just want to understand you know how you can rationalize that this is not a valid resource material um and so I just kind of want to want to understand more of your reasoning behind that can I see the um the policy or I can look it up because I don't have that with anybody which one the resource material yeah 9130 yeah 25 30
060is resource materials if I could just add while she's looking at that um you know we looked at the policy and I had made the point I just maybe this is something we should address in the policy committee I just don't see the policy addressing it because it's to me the policy referring just talks about not removing a book because the ideas are offensive you know example would be if there was a book about a transgender student let's use as an example you know we couldn't say we don't like that subject material so we're going to remove the book you know and I get that and I agree with that but this was to me it was just a question of whether it's age appropriate you know based on language which I you know I
061think you could characterize it as you know pornographic and I don't I just don't see the policy addressing that at a certain point you have to say we'd have to we'd have the right to remove the book some point for being an age and appropriate someone found a copy of just a pornographic book in the library it was put there by mistake was it removed we wouldn't say well you can't remove it because of the content so you know you can disagree on these things I just I don't know the policy ever really addressed it I can never understand from the policy what um you know I don't have in front of me but that policy as a whole talked about a decision and there was one I guess subparagraph I just talked about the
062book challenge but it was part of that overall policy talking about a decision-making process by the forward so always had a big problem with the policy I didn't find the attorney's remarks that night very helpful you know one point she said to me well you know the Supreme Court or the courts discouraged removing books but it was just kind of it just kind of begs the question because you you know you'd always have the right to remove a book for obscenities or just age and appropriate things and you know I think we have to make that decision I don't want to I don't think we should defer to a Library Association of you know someone telling us well this is good for this age group I think we would have the right to look at
063and say you know this this shouldn't have been in there so um when you look up District policy 25 30 for resource materials number one says material will be suited to the very interest abilities reading levels and maturation levels of the peoples to be served I find it hard to believe how it suits that the reading level of this book is actually grades three to six um number two wherever possible materials will provide major opposing views on controversial issues so that pupils May develop under Guidance the practice of critical reading and thinking this book does not provide critical reading number three wherever possible materials will represent The Many religious ethnic and cultural groups and their contributions to American Heritage I suppose it meets that one number four materials will be factually accurate in a genuine
064literary or artistic value I find it hard to see the value in this book number five materials will be of a quality and durability appropriate to their intended uses and longevity score and number six more importantly materials will relate to support and enrich the courses of study adopted by the board so I don't see how this enriches the courses of study for any of our students foreign I think if this was clear-cut then the committee would have made you know a firm decision and based on their assessment with the rubric and the policy they came to a decision we've heard quite a bit of feedback on both sides of the equation and Randy you're comment around the policy I think is is valid as a board as elected members we would have more effect if
065we were to look at the policy rather than to go book by book through the library which is neither practical nor possible so I would just encourage all of you to think about what we're here to do with regard to Our obligation with policy and that might be a better place to start rather than trying to go through the book the library in its entirety which is just not reasonable nor is it our role thank you any other comments Mrs betterman um I really haven't expressed any opinions on this up until now and I was on the board when this first came um to our attention the book challenge was brought forward and you know I guess I just want to say that I I really do I was on the policy chair when we
066adopted the updates to 91 30 and 25 30 and we were really trying to be very thoughtful at that point when we updated those um thinking about things like a book challenge actually happening um and now that we've actually been through it I do think that Randy is correct maybe there is some value in sending it back to policy committee for um maybe some of the lessons we've learned to be incorporated into that policy and I do think that that has value but from a process perspective having watched it I did not intentionally I did not read this book um and I did not get overly involved in what the edtech committee was doing but I watched it to see that the policy that we adopted in the policy committee was adhered to was followed
067cross-section of um you know Community member as well as Educators were involved in the process um the meeting a second meeting was even added to make sure that an additional staff member and a parent had time to read the books in their entirety like I really feel like the process um did what it was intended to do again if they're improvements I have no improv no problem with sending it to the policy committee for us to look at it again but you know without using my own judgment you know whatever my personal opinion is from my family um I just want to say that I just support the process and we've seen the report we the rubric and the scores that were given were all fairly high for all of the areas by this committee
068that was convened and so to me it's a pretty convincing argument for it the conclusion that was made which was for this book to remain available in the library and so I just wanted to say that I you know I I totally support that and I support the staff and the people who are involved in the process and so I I would not be in favor of unilaterally recommending that this book be removed I would be much more in favor of it going back to a policy committee review thank you any other comments um it's just to maybe build on What's nest is better than just a articulated to me so there might be some question of whether or not the resource policy is has the right criteria um maybe there should be you know
069some improvements made to criteria but any decision like this is going to come down to what's the criteria and then who gets to read the criteria so as board members I don't think it's our job as far as I know to be the one to say whether or not we feel the book meets it is you know how it how it adheres to the criteria whether it passes or fails each and every criteria I think that was the committee that was put in place um of of educators of people who you know this is their their livelihood their you know educational background this is where that they're you know educated in and so so this it seems like there are two questions whether or not the policy is right do we have the right set
070of criteria and then who actually gets to decide whether the criteria is met or or not um and I don't think that ever comes down to being the board members and it's you know it so I don't know how we you know we can go back and look at the policy but we're not addressing the other part of the equation which is who actually gets to determine whether they put policy is being that you know the different criteria is being met or not I don't know how to get past that but I think that's part of the issue but I also do think we need to look to make sure that the committee's report aligns with the resource policy yeah my I was just I know Mrs wolf wanted to speak although I'm sorry go
071ahead why don't I agree with what is being said about the existing policy that it made me look worth the second look at this is one of the first times I'm aware of something going through it in practice and sometimes that experience gives you different insight into what is working and what isn't and what the criteria is um to I would I would never recommend I never thought I'd be in a position to even talk about removing a book um reading is extraordinarily important to me into our community and I would never pull something based on an idea or an ideology my concern is with pervasive vulgarity throughout the book and the age-appropriateness for sixth seventh and eighth grade Library we're not talking about a public Community Library but the age-appropriateness for students in our
072district and I was surprised both by the vulgar language that is pervasive in the book which to me is different from an inappropriate word being included versus something being repeated multiple times um and also the fact that our policy doesn't look into that when determining the age of program s so I think that those kind of two scenes are something that I would want to look into further thank you oh just following up on Carolyn's point about the criteria um you know I think I found the criteria part of it a little strange because it's the book the the inquiries seemed to be you know does a good point parts of the book outplay like the vulgarities in it which seemed to me odd because they didn't the criteria never the criteria never went to
073you know what the parents were complaining about with the language it just went to how good of a book it was and you know I just I don't think that that's the that can really be the standard because you could say that half the book could be just pornographic language but it would have been a good story you know I mean there's there's a lot of books out there that adults should read but we wouldn't necessarily put them you know in middle school so that's all thank you thank you okay I I have to say that if you the recommendation or I'm not saying exact title the report of the reconsideration committee dated January 17th actually goes through um the one through six resource materials criteria and addresses those in that rubric so you go
074back and look at those but as I think Mrs veteran said the ratings were all very high so the average scores were 4.67 out of five felt that um the criteria was met very well you know so just so you know that that was the intent the rubric was to match the criteria in the resource materials secondly I want to say as a board that we do not approve resource materials that is something that is done through administrators and superintendent that is not the board's area we approve curriculum we don't approve resource materials so just want to clarify that thank you and I was just going to say the same thing Beth that when we were updating these policies we remember Dr Hart we were very detailed as far as what is defined as resource
075material what is defined as a textbook we were very cognizant of those things and and talked through how those various things work and what is the superintendent's purvey versus what comes before the edtech committee so we were very intentional when we were looking through these policies when we were updating them so that's the first point a link to make the second point I'd just like to say just because I might have a slightly different demographic than other board members is my seventh grade daughter in RMS is the youngest of my family so her experiences and what she might be exposed to are different than if my oldest child was that 13 year old in seventh grade so her oldest brother is 21. so my family and what she may have access to even within my
076home with adults children living in the home is very different than you know if if my oldest child was 13 and they might not be exposed to that so I think I'm just speaking to people that you know have younger children in their their home it might be at a very different place in their life that um you know there might be a situation where it it could be that you know that that was an appropriate selection for that student to make because they're in a very different place in their lives than someone who has very young children in the house and I I would not speak for others about whether that was appropriate in anybody's family at any time um but for my own family I might decide that it is appropriate at a
077point of time if my daughter said that she was interested in in accessing something or something like that book so I just sort of wanna share that there are many many different perspectives mine is just one of many I would never speak for other families but I think it's important to understand that when this reconsideration committee's report came and we looked through it um you know we're looking for all children who may or may may or may not be able to understand or have a need for the material that's in a book such as this book and I think it's spoken to in that committee report when you look back on it as to what the benefits are to to having a book such as this versus the challenges of having a book like this
078which which I understand are many I'm very respectful of that I just think that we're here for all students and we we must try to think that way as we go through this and and keep in mind that we hire um Dr Hart he hires appropriate professionals who have a background um and you know I guess I'm saying that I'm just in support of the process and the people that we have in place to do those things thank you um I think we're ready to move on with the vote I do want to thank everybody for being respectful um and sharing their differing opinions I think it's a a good lesson in civility uh policy on that uh Jason if we get a roll call please can you just what do we say yes the
079motion is to remove the book me and Earl me Earl and the dying girl from the library so a vote of yes is to remove the book a vote of no is the to the book remains thank you you're welcome it's better no story no it's an answer no your speech Yes is Ryan yes wolf yeah is a sample no no she doesn't pass thank you uh moving on we are now open to the public no is this about that mind I'm going to change the subject totally well I just want to ask if there were consensus I don't know if there were to have the policy committee look at the policies that's something um so we we could take a motion or if um or it could be a recommendation from the superintendent or
080the fourth president I thought I heard a consensus for the policy committee to review the policy to be clear it's the resource materials policy is that the one that we're going to review the correct the one that sets the criteria that's that's what I thought I heard just correctly okay I'll bring that to the policy committee thank you I'll have an issue with that this Friday um is a staff and service day I just wanted to mention this um so the teachers are here on this Friday one of the nice surprises although it's not a surprise anymore because we announced it for the teachers is we have four food trucks that are going to be here on District property um to provide lunch for the teachers and we have a whole bunch of uh donors
081that have donated um like little tickets for the teachers to get a free lunch and I think we have a lot of giveaways and things like that sponsored by the HSA and the rtea as well as the District administration who all donated to this effort so Friday is a day for staff only no students um and a fun day if anybody wants to stop by and get food from a food truck you can and then don't forget Monday is also a day off for staff and students schools are closed for the snow contingency day wings I just mentioned it as part of our effort for staff retention recruitment you know staff morale I think it's important for you to know that this was a concerted effort on the administration HSA and rtas sorry thank you
082I appreciate that sure is there any other new business before okay moving on open to the public anything on or off the agenda segue until I can speak about um I wasn't expecting that so some of this might be pointless now I'm not sure but I still feel I need to share it if that's okay um I'm following up to the emails that it's sent to the board regarding my questions about the policy that you put in place for me and all the time so I realized that the book was recommended to stay but there was a policy now in place for this book that restricts the other students and as for Dr Hart it states that the book is circulated and graded only and if the sixth and seventh grade student wanted the book
083this would be a conversation with the ELA teacher and a parent it is this collaboration that will determine the maturity level and the book can be checked out by student in my email I explained to you that this policy goes against the principles for intellectual Freedom the library Bill of Rights and the librarian's responsibility to protect students privacy I have addressed these concerns with the librarian Mr Charleston through the board and Dr Hart and I've yet to receive your explanation of how you can enforce this policy knowing that it violates the rates of two-thirds of the students at RMS since you have not fully answered questions I contacted the county superintendent's office I explained to them the steps I have taken to address this issue regarding the committee's recommendation and the board's decision to keep
084the book and the policy that they are putting in place they were very helpful in explaining the appeals process at the state level I did try to call the state every voicemail box was full no one would answer extensions I tried several times I went back to the county superintendent's office they were extremely um really encouraging to me validating all the points that I have been making um and after our conversation I emailed the office of intellectual freedom and I asked them the following questions which will sound very familiar because the same ones I want some of you can a school librarian reserve and circulate a book to one particular grade level and can a school librarian call a student's parents and or consult with their teacher to determine the maturity level in order to
085allow a student to check out a book from the school library it is my understanding that once a book has been selected for the school library it should be placed on the Shelf without restriction and available to all students and students should be free from intrusion regarding their book selection and their privacy should be protected by the librarian the office of intellectual Freedom responded with the following good morning Mrs depinto you are correct that the best and recommended practice is for the school library books to be available for all students without restriction and that their privacy should be respected additionally he added that parents have the rights over their minor children and many districts to adopt policies allowing parents to specify titles they do not wish their child their children to take out this approach
086though um would not have privacy implications unlike your requirement to call a parent for approval prior to checking the material out or Consulting with their teacher to determine maturity levels I find it hard to believe that the librarian was not aware of this especially especially since she is is that my timer I think so I have I have a paragraph left is it okay to continue thank you um especially since she is the president of the Huntington County Library Association the book challenge form that I had to fill out asked in what ways does the material fail to support the district's commitment to intellectual Freedom as expressed in the American association's Library Bill of Rights the National Council of teachers of English students rights to read statement and the First Amendment of the United States
087Constitution and the letter I received from Dr Hartman the board decided to keep this book in referenced the First Amendment it's very evident that the district is aware that this policy goes against all these principles I was told that I do not have the right to restrict the reading choices of other people's children if that is exactly what you are doing by reserving this book from the 8th graders um I'm just wondering why you apply this to me when I challenged a book but disregard it when you accept the committee's report and create this policy um and why have a book that jeopardizes the Integrity of the library and the librarian age-appropriateness and Community taste is considered during book selection process to avoid this exact situation Miss singer told me herself that she did not
088read this book cover to cover and that she was unaware that this information was in it and that led me to believe that this was a true mistake this is the only book in the armist library like this to my knowledge I've done a search through Destiny to see and I really feel my singer does consider age appropriateness and you know stuff like this when she's selecting the books for the library so I really felt this was a genuine mistake that had she had read this book prior and saw all this language in it and the unnecessary sexually explicit material she probably would not have selected that um you the board were the final Orbiter on this decision as for uh Dr Park that um you were the final orbit around this decision and I
089would argue that your arbitration was not thorough when reviewing the committee's recommendation and my book challenge forms because if you really are champions of an intellectual Freedom then your policy should really bother you um I've you know I even explained that right in my book challenge you know I explained how you really can't have this book in the library if you're going to have to restrict other students from reading it because it's not age appropriate since the office of intellectual Freedom has confirmed my argument that this policy violates your commitment to the library Bill of Rights which the school has adopted and you have acknowledged this book is not appropriate for two-thirds of the school by the Restriction you exclusively put in place the only proper course of action to me seems to remove the
090book altogether I hope you are looking at this as or I hope you stop looking at this as something that you need to win I really hope that's never what this was about um I've seen the emails between the committee and everyone through the Oprah request and um that leads me to believe that there was God you know there was a guidebook handed to you from the New Jersey Association of school librarians how to handle book challenges and a lot of what was in the committee's report was very similar to other book challenges that I've seen um for me in early dying girl a lot of it used the same terminology like Windows and mirrors and all that stuff so it just seems that there is you know that it's almost like it was more
091about not letting me remove this book even though I feel I was speaking on the majority of our community um and I hope you start looking at this as the right thing to do it's your responsibility to represent the concerns of the citizens and to set good policies that directly affect our children thank you this is santangelo from Reddington Township I wanted to discuss the transgender policy again in light of some new developments I would like to preface that we all have people in our lives that are part of the LBGTQ Community including myself whom we love and support this is about parental rights and what is happening to the thousands of children who now question their gender and don't fit the gender dysphoria profile what happens to a minor after they are affirmed by
092their school recently a 12 year old girl was affirmed by her school without her parents involvement per the policy attempted to hang herself in the school bathroom twice all while her parents knew none of this was happening another case of a fifth grade girl who is affirmed by her school where parents only found out after discovering a drawing depicting her attempting suicide the school stated they did not want to tell the parents because they were catholic and wouldn't understand how can this policy make the claim that they are trying to keep kids safe when this is happening all around the country now so if affirmation benefits children why are we seeing children trying to commit suicide schools usually State we are just following law however the state law does not tell schools to exclude parents
093why would you support a policy that gives access to an isolates miners away from their parents and portrays parents as not safe or separate a minor from their parents regarding life-altering decisions or allow staff to gain the trust of these minors by affirming something they are not qualified to do know absolutely nothing about and have no credential credential to do so you're also not providing informed consent regarding the consequences to the decisions rather you're putting them on a future track to puberty philosophers crossed sex hormones unknown side effects and ultimately gender reforming surgery schools say they're excluding parental consent because parents will harm their children dozens of teachers and staff have been arrested charged and convicted in New Jersey alone for sexual assault of children but the most recent case where an assistant principal is
094being charged with sexually assaulting children in South Orange principles are stated in this policy as one of the staff members to guide these minors towards affirmation what about all the detransition or testimonies who now live with irreversible effects where their parents were told they would either have a dead daughter or a trans son Dr Levine a gender expert shows that affirmation does not work but actually harms children he states that true gender dysphoria presents itself in pre-prepessant males and if treated with counseling over 90 percent of those cases resolve themselves why are more and more States now over 10 passing laws to stop affirming practices of minors however our New Jersey Senators winter just introduced a bill 3592 if this bill passes a parent who denies gender affirmed care to their child will be considered
095a form of child abuse and grounds for removal and will be forced by the state to receive treatment do you want your children removed from your home put in foster care and given treatment by the state I am sending each board member all of this documentation at a minimum you cannot deny these facts exist and I at best I strongly urge the board and hope that you will take action in the middle of this policy thank you thank you are there any comments online there's nothing okay that closes uh public comment section um can I get a motion to move to Executive session um in accordance with the Sunshine Law to discuss negotiations and Hib for approximately 30 minutes at which time the board expects to return to public session where action shall not be
096taken the matters discussed will be made public if and when the circumstances requiring confidentiality no longer exist however it is not presently known when such circumstances will exist second handy and roll call please this is Baron yes Miss Jerry yes Mentor yes speech yes this is wolf yes example yes all right thank you everyone