Winslow Township Board of Education 5/14/2025

001I saw I saw the children out. [Music] Welcome everybody to the Winsow Township Board of Education regular board meeting of Wednesday, May 14th, 2025. Public notice of this meeting was given to all board members and associates in a notice dated 1 19 2025. Adequate and electronic notice of this public meeting has been provided specifying the time, place, and manner in which this meeting is being conducted. was advertised in the Courier Post, posted in all schools, the administration office, the municipal building, the library, Bud Dubal Center, Edgewood Acres, Elmtown, and the Winslow Township Post offices. Mission statement. The mission of the Winslow Township School District, a large, diverse, and growing community, is to educate all students to become independent, lifelong learners, critical thinkers, and caring and competent members of their community. The district in partnership with

002the community and in a climate of cooperation and mutual respect will provide an academic environment which values excellence and diversity encourages students to strive for personal excellence and assists them in acquiring the knowledge, skills and attitudes necessary to contribute positively cha rapidly changing world. Roll call, please. Mr. Clark. Mr. Clark will be absent tonight. Thank you. Miss Dragon here. Miss Claude here. Miss Martin has it. Mr. McManis. Mr. Ma Mcmanis. I don't I think he's going to be late. Okay. Miss Peterson present. Miss Pitts. Miss Pitts will be absent tonight. Thank you. Mr. Thomas. Absolutely. And Mr. Shaw, present. We have a quorum. Can we please stand for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under

003God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The 2425 district goal, please. Mr. President, 2425 district goal. student achievement. Continue to implement best practices for delivering instruction to students. This shall include conduct weekly administrative walkthroughs to monitor teaching and learning. Consistently review student assessment data to guide and redirect teaching. Continue to provide supplemental activities, example tutoring, enrichment period periods to address student deficiencies. benchmark assessment for ninth graders for math and language arts. Two, create a safe and positive learning environment for students and staff. Strictly enforce the district's student code of conduct. Focus on upper elementary school students to modify student behavior in the early grades. Reinforce positive behavior in a specific and genuine way. Approach discipline with care, respect, and the desire to see the good in all students. Number three, increase parent, caregiver, and

004community engagement in education. Provide opportunities for two-way communication with district stakeholders. Continue with communications consortium. Focus on refining our communications methods and messages to better market our schools. Continue with our public relations with the community. Thank you, Miss Barton. Moving on to our awards of presentations. Yes. Um, Mr. Shaw, members of the board and community, uh, we have two presentations. The first will be a recognition. As we have done in the past, we would like to acknowledge our young people throughout the district for their achievements in school and outside of the school district. Tonight we are going to acknowledge and recognize our band and color guard for their most recent accomplishment and we are definitely proud of them. Um is Mr. Jarella? He's absent. I'm here in his place. Oh, okay. Miss Dixie, uh she's

005also sick. I only have two names. I'm the assistant director. Um would you um uh go to the podium, please? um acknowledge u the members of of the guard and any other students who are here representing uh your band front and uh then just tell us a little bit about u your successes throughout the course of this season. Okay. Um I will actually read what the color guard instructor had written sick right now unfortunately. Uh she starts good evening members of the board, faculty, families and guests. It is my honor to stand before you today to recognize a group of students whose dedication, discipline, and talent have brought pride to our school community. The outstanding Winslow Township High School in North Color. This season was incredibly special. The color guard didn't just compete, they conquered

006with their 2025 program, Crown and Glory. They brought home another regional championship in their class. received the highest score that a Winsow Township High School color guard has ever received at all chapter championships in Wildwood with a 96.31 and was promoted to a class which is a stunning achievement with long hours, practice, unwavering teamwork and a commitment to excellence. They rose to the top and were crowned champions in their region. Their achievement isn't about medals. It reflects the values we strive to instill in our students. perseverance, unity, and pride in representing something greater than themselves. I would not I would now like to acknowledge and recognize the six region one champions of the Winslow Township High School andor color. Captain Katarina Bouncil. Congratulations to the color guard members on this remarkable accomplishment. Your hard work

007has made us all proud and a special thank you to the school and school board for your support of this program. Winsow Township High School is only able to have an award-winning program because of that support. And lastly, thank you to all the parents whose time and commitment has made this accomplishment possible. [Music] Now, I know there's a banner that you guys There is a banner. It is in the office of Mr. Dar right now. We were trying to bring it for you today, but some wires got crossed in communication. Okay, then that answers my next question. Yes. Um, but on behalf of the administration and the school board, we'd like to congratulate the color guard, the members of the band, the band front for an outstanding season. We're truly proud of everything you've been

008able to accomplish. You've been representing yourselves, your family, this community, and the high school in the best possible way, and we're proud of you. Thanks for coming out. Next, we have our technology audit presentation. Uh, we're going to ask our guests to please come forward to the mic. Introduce yourselves, gentlemen. And at that point, I know you have a presentation. Um, would you like for us to take seats in the audience so that you can Sure. Yeah, that might be better for you. All right. Hurt your necks. Thank you. You want to make sure it works? Yeah. Strong signal for you, sir. [Music] Everybody hear me? Okay. Yes. My name is Ryan Castner. I am an account manager with Aspire Technology Partners. And my job at Aspire is to bring the experts such as Keith

009Eckle and other engineers at our organization together and bring solutions for districts just like Township. My name is Keith Eckle. I've been with Inspire Technology Partners for about 11 years. which is I spent probably about nine 10 of those years actually uh in school districts for 500s pretty much every business I can think of I've been in figuring these kind of networks and looking forward to great so uh I wanted to tonight take some time to give an introduction to go ahead could you gentlemen use your mic as much as possible so everybody thank you absolutely no problem is that better yes not a problem so uh as I mentioned perform account manager. So I focus in what's called sled as far technology partner, state, local, education and government. Right. So uh I work within

010South Jersey districts just like Winsow Township uh large and small districts agnostic in that regard. And as Keith mentioned, I have an extensive background in helping organizations or districts like yourselves with audits and assessments like we're going to talk about tonight. So just a little overview about Aspire. We can talk more about that at the end. Uh we are a local New Jersey based and headquartered organization. About 50% of our organization focuses on the commercial side of the house. So as Keith mentioned, Fortune 500 down to local businesses. Uh and the other 50% where I live is in the sled state local education and government space. So uh we know this space well. Uh we focus on a couple different areas. Tonight we're going to talk about consulting side of the house which again tonight

011we'll talk about an audit and assessment of the network infrastructure security and overall resilience of the network. We also handle things from design, procurement, installation, configuration and also manage services for 247 365 uh vision into uh the networks of districts like ourselves. So I mentioned all that just to give you an idea of where Aspire spans the gamut in terms of what we can do and our expertise and our reach. Okay. So, uh, we were introduced to Winslow Township School District because we work through various state contracts and agencies, uh, to perform different consulting engagements, one of which, uh, pertains to audits and assessment. Uh, Micah Ponte, director of technology here for the district, reached out to me, uh, and asked myself, Keith, I pulled together a couple engineers to come in and also talk

012to Dr. about some of the issues that uh they were seeing and they were hearing from folks districtwide about system connectivity, potential security concerns, overall network just issues from time to time. And they felt that it was starting to potentially affect uh not only student performance, right, but of course performance from a from a teaching standpoint as mentioned here earlier tonight. Uh and the goals of the district want to make sure that the network is resilient, redundant, performing how it's supposed to and is secure. So, uh, we had an extensive conversation, uh, started to dig into some of the issues and put together a proposal that from a high level tonight, myself and Keith are going to talk through, uh, to give you an idea of what we would be doing if you decided to

013ga engage with Aspire Technology uh, partners on this. So, I'll point you to the screen there. Try not to kill you with PowerPoint here, but again, uh, when we came in and spoke with the technology team and Dr. and they gave us some of the background of what they were looking for. Uh it really aligns to what we do at Aspire Technology Partners. So our job is to from an audit standpoint dig in uh down to the stakeholder level, right? So interviewing teachers, going into the schools, having boots on the ground to understand exactly what is going on. Uh Keith will talk about some of this, but diving into the network and the infrastructure, understanding what you have here at the district. we have a a relatively good overview of that from our initial discussions

014but actually getting in there Keith and myself did a walk through uh to for the proposal understand what you have um and then from there digging in to ensure again everything we need to do to make sure that the to perform the outcomes that are needed right so you'll see in the middle there the focus I mentioned resiliency obviously very important in today's day and age that the network and the infrastructure and the systems are operational at all times but especially during the school day Right. So resiliency is going to be a big focus. Security uh you see on the news, you don't have to look too far. Cyber security is an everchanging world. Uh there's concerns around that in every district. Um some of the things we talked about in our initial discussions were

015potential what they call DDoS attacks. You may have heard of ransomware where your data is locked up or malware. We're going to dig into security and Keith's going to talk about some of the particulars there. Scalability. Uh mentioned in the beginning of the board meeting that the district is a growing district, right? And when we talk about scalability, that means from a technology standpoint, too. We're all hearing about AI, some of the tools. Um, that's going to continue to grow. We need more computing power, more network power. Our goal with the audit assessment is provide the team and the leadership here at the district the ability to scale efficiently and effectively going forward. So, Keith's going to touch on not only we talk about short-term solutions to close those gaps where there are issues, but

016also a long-term roadmap to make sure that the district can scale. And then last and not but not least standardization, right? There's a a host of different solutions, vendors and infrastructure solutions that uh districts can put into place. If it's not standardized and there's not a roadmap to align the district to it can be very hard again going back to scaling to standardize on something and that makes life a lot harder on the IT and technology team. So uh most importantly is going to be outcomes, right? So, uh, Keith's going to dive in again a little bit more into the particulars of actual audits and assessment, but our goal is to provide you within our outcomes short-term fixes, right? So, immediate fixes to any of those system discrepancies or downtime that you're currently seeing, midterm

017uh solutions to say, look, these are things that may not need to happen immediately, but we're going to recommend you do within maybe the next year or two years. And then again, another a long-term roadmap solution. Keith, I'll give it to you for the framework of the engagement. Thank you. So throughout the whole project for the actual engagement, we're obviously going to do project kickoff calls. So we we kind of did our walkthroughs already to get a a lay of the land as to more or less the network devices that you have, uh how many closets you have, where everything's sitting, what the actual infrastructure kind of looks like. So we have a good idea. Um but then we'll start diving a little bit more deeper into it. So we'll do an initial project kickoff.

018Um this whole engagement will mostly cover just the network infrastructure uh your wireless infrastructure uh your data center infrastructure and obviously the uh your security as well too. So we'll go through we'll ask we'll do uh some stakeholder interviews. So essentially um at each at each school we'll kind of pick a handful of teachers administrators or whatever and uh we'll go through we'll actually interview them and try to get their feel as to what's actually going on in the school. Uh because obviously every building is different right? So, we want to ensure that we're hitting uh every building needs. Uh we don't want to basically go to a building and understand that one thing is wrong and then we're trying to try to fix something else, right? We want to understand what exactly is going

019on in that building and then come to a solution so that you guys can be more efficient. Um we do a lot of toolbased data collection. So, um we'll actually log in, we'll we'll physically be in every single device. We'll look at the configurations. We'll look at how it's all working. We'll we'll come up with best practice recommendations and this goes back into Ryan's short, medium, and long-term kind of goals. Um, we'll take a look at obviously the configuration assessment. Um, and then we'll come up with a business process review. So, what we want to hit in the short term, what we want to hit in the medium term, and obviously what we want to hit in the long term. Um, as far as the analysis goes, um, we're going to go through like a

020security posture review. So, we'll look at project governance. Um, we're going to do basic um, penetration testing. So, we're going to look at the network from the outside in. Obviously, you guys don't want to be in the news for bad things like ransomware. So, we're going to take a look at all that and see how that would affect the district and how we can prevent that from happening in the first place. Um, that also covers NIS compliance. So, that's what most Fortune 500 and school districts uh uh use as their security backbone. So, it's a basically a framework for the actual district itself. Uh we'll go through some risk prioritization. So we'll give you red, yellow, green. So what is the most priority as far as the security assessment goes standing the network like what

021you need to fix now what could wait a little bit and what could be pushed down a little bit down the road. Um and then obviously we'll come up with different insights. So we'll give you different we're not sold on one vendor. Um obviously what you guys have we'll try to make work with what you have. So you're not going out and just buying new stuff. we're having to buy new stuff. Uh we can present basically what we would recommend and more of a consultative approach. We want to be a partner. We're here to work with you, not just try to sell you something. Um and then obviously roadmap development. So again, I keep saying short-term, medium, medium-term, long-term goals, but that's really the uh the goal of the whole project. Um we'll also come

022up with standardized high level and lowle design. So, at a high level, what's the whole district would look like as far as the network and then we'll go pretty deep into as far as configurations, uh, IP addressing, VLANs, all those other terms, we we'll get into as far as like the actual designs go and then, uh, policy guidance. So, um, again, once once everything is, uh, done and over with, we don't want to go away. We want to partner with you. Um, we can come up with those policies. We can help you manage them. Um because obviously, you know, once we're once we're done with the engagement, we want to make sure that those policies are actually staying in place and they're not just kind of going away. Um everyone knows, you know, you can

023kind of see you have a nice shiny toy for a little bit and then eventually it stops becoming so shiny and it just kind of goes to the wayside. But that's what we're here for. We can help you out with that. True. So uh in terms of alignment uh one of the other things here there's a couple things that are reiterated here right but ultimately our our our goal here along with the district is to stabilize the network right so that was the initial reason that we were brought in the conversation was had in the first place there's some instability that we'd like to make sure that we remedy for you and then strengthen it to ensure going forward that your network is redundant and resilient. Uh we also want to make sure that we

024assess the infrastructure uh from the base level on up. Right? So we mentioned before we've done a walk through. We're going to be digging into the network and putting tools and devices into the network to understand exactly where things stand now and make sure we give recommendations to strengthen going forward. And then security is a big piece, right? Uh another piece to the security uh part of it is what's called a vulnerability assessment. we'll actually put a tool within the network that'll understand where vulnerabilities lie and then also again recommendations. So the last piece that I'll touch on here and we're certainly happy to take any questions thereafter. U this will be a collaborative engagement should the district decide to move forward. So uh in our initial meetings we've met with the IT and technology

025team here at the district. You've got a lot of great leaders on that team and they do a great job for you. It's kind of similar to uh like any organization or business when they have financial audit, right? So they have an accounting and finance team on staff and then they have an audit maybe annually or by annually where somebody from the outside comes in takes a looks at things points out areas maybe where there can be recommended um opportunities for stabilization or strengthening as I mentioned and then we work handinhand with the team on staff. So Keith mentioned we can certainly uh after the engagement help you further but the IT team our goal is really so the IT team is armed and the technology team I should say is armed with the information

026and the roadmap to be able to not only get you to where you'd like to be as a district but know what needs to be done going forward and really you could do that manner that you need to whatever vendor that you decide to use as well. So, we've said a lot. Um, if if anybody would like to get more of a technical deep dive, we can of course do that as well. Our goal tonight try to hit you on a high level knowing not everybody may be familiar with networking and infrastructure and data center. We're open to any questions if anybody like to ask me. Sure. Um, generally, how long does it take from start to finish for you to come back and give us an um analysis? Question. Yeah. Yeah. So um obviously

027with a with a district of your size um we start from project kickoff that probably takes about a couple of days. We do an initial an internal project kickoff which would be a meeting between myself, Ryan, our project management team and the actual engineers who would be assigned to the actual assessment. Uh this way we know that from the initial engagement that the information is getting relayed properly to them and they fully understand what is actually going on. Um Ryan and I don't go away by any means. we're still fully involved with the project. So we make sure that everything's going as it was sold and is expected to go. Um from there we then do a external kickoff. So that would be a kickoff with the district itself. So that's ourselves and you guys

028meeting and we're going through basically the statement of work that was uh that would be agreed upon what you guys would expect and from there then we just start scheduling dates. You know I mean we can do this pretty quickly. We can take as long as you want really too. Uh but I would say probably within a couple of weeks we can have uh some answers. Um I can speak from like a wireless standpoint side. Um this also includes wireless heat maps and what that entails is us actually walking around the buildings with a site survey tool to understand coverage gaps. So that'll give us nice pretty colors on a uh on software that'll tell us, hey, you you're missing some wireless coverage in this room. You might need to add a couple access points

029here. Move an AP there or whatever. uh that takes time just because obviously we want to make sure there's a we're not interfering with the business itself or the district itself. So uh we have to physically get into as many rooms as possible. Um so I would say that would probably take about a week or so. Um if I had to estimate I would say about one to two months probably throughout the summer we probably hope that answer your question. when you're doing your assessment, is it best that the students are here? Because I'm I'm assuming when they're here, they're using more whatever bandwidth, whatever, as opposed to when they're not. If you came in and did this during the summer and just have the 12 month staff might not be, you know, a great

030picture or snapshot, but I'm assuming you'll be doing some assessment while the students are in here working and, you know, drawing from whatever resources we have. Yeah, that's an excellent point and uh that's actually our goal too as well. Uh so hopefully I mean as soon as we can get sign off as soon as we get the project rolling um we could absolutely start doing our assessment especially from the networking side and same thing with the wireless side too. Uh we can come in we can do the uh we can do the keypad student do this here as well. Um it is kind of intrusive obviously because we have to walk in and out of the classroom. We're in the classroom momentarily. It probably be about a minute or so and then we we kind

031of move on to the next classroom the next row. But the networking side uh we're pretty stealthy. you wouldn't even know that we're actually going to be on the network itself. So, we'll be we'll be remotely doing those, but we can do those with with everybody in the district. So, this way we can see the bandwidth coming out of one school versus bandwidth coming out of another school. We can see, hey, is this internet pipe getting overloaded versus the other internet pipe isn't being utilized at all. So, we can give you kind of like a cost analysis, too, like maybe this school's using less than what they pay for versus vice versa. But, yes, that's a great question. Yeah, and I think ultimately you mentioned it before too, but also interviewing uh folks in the

032schools is an important component to it as well, right? The teachers uh potential students are the ones that are actually experiencing some of the issues. And look, we can we can put in place tools and we can monitor things, but a lot of the times the conversations that really tell us a lot, right? Um I think one important fact that you mentioned was that you would provide us with a red, yellow, green. I think I got the colors right. You got it. Red, of course, being most important, which means that the school district may have to repair or replace something in that area in order for us to move forward. There's a cost attached to that replacement or repair. Um, so we need as a board and administration know that as you move forward and

033provide us with this red, yellow, and green that in order for us to move quickly and efficiently, we're going to have to start replacing some things, buying new, whatever it may be to upgrades, things of that sort. So, I know there's a cost attached to that. Um, will you be recommending to us for example how much you think it would cost estimate wise so we'll have an idea what we're talking about in terms of cost. Sure. Yeah. Great question and absolutely. So what we'll do is based on our findings we'll recommend a uh solution or multiple solutions and most sense can be multiple solutions right. So depending what the issues are, uh we typically will give kind of a high, low, and then a medium option as well, right? We know this is a school

034district, there's budgets involved, right? So um typically when we work with our customers, we'll say, listen, our 100% recommendation if the budget fits would be X. We understand that you may not have the budget for that, so maybe you go Y or maybe you go Z. Um among at the output of the actual audit itself, we can give budgetary figures or we end or we can give you actual quotes and you can move forward on. Sure. Um so you said you've done this with other school districts. Uh what were some of those um findings that you had that were like the most common or and or most expensive or stuff that we could turn on right away? Yes. Absolutely. So, a lot of that comes from um at least in my experience. Uh it comes

035from security. It'll also come from wireless. So, most of the times schools may have too many access points or they may not have enough wireless access points. That's basically the vehicle that gets you from your laptop wirelessly out to the internet. Um so, through the wireless heat map, that'll tell us right away whether you have too many, whether you don't have enough, uh whether we need to move some, maybe they're not in the right spots. Uh same thing from the security vulnerability assessment. Uh that would come into play as far as you know what kind of devices you have. Maybe it's you're missing a certain license to stop DOS attacks to stop malware to stop maybe you do URL or content filtering a little more efficiently. So we'll dive into all those different rule sets

036within the firewalls within the appliances and then we can give you the cost based on that. But to answer your question, it kind of varied from school district to school district. Um, some schools, you know, they, um, they have staff that are completely dedicated to just managing a firewall or just managing the wireless, right, versus having staff that is pretty much doing everything and sweeping us and stuff, too. So, um, it can vary. Um, but it it all depends on what we, uh, we really find. So, I wish I gave you like a number, but I just And then, um, any like you said you're going to give us recommendations. um are you this isn't going this doesn't cover you coming back out and looking at the recommendations that we did um do to see

037if those recommendations are actually in place the way that you that you recommended or is that something else that we have to come have you come back out at a on a different um award or contract to say okay all the things that here's all here are all the lists this is and then we tell you which ones we've implemented and then you come back out and say, "Okay, yes, these are what we asked you to do and they're implemented based on what you recommended and are are good." Yeah. No, absolutely. So, that would be part of another engagement. So, this engagement itself is for the audit. So, we're going to go through pretty much everything. List out what would need to be basically tactical recommendations, what they would call it, and then from there,

038we can either work with you to to accomplish those uh or we can you guys can go ahead and go through them yourselves. We'll kind of give you guidelines on how to do some of the stuff. Um, and then obviously I mean we're always phone call away. You can utilize this how little as little as you want or as much as you want. In terms of districts that you have worked with with similar buildings with age on them, has there been any unique concerns? Um, so a lot of that comes with like cabling. Um, I know we we run into a lot of issues, especially with trying to we have to add devices in certain areas. Uh, you know, maybe we can't drill through a wall because there's asbestous or maybe you can't do certain

039things because solid concrete, maybe it's a fallout shelter at some point. Um, so yeah, we've been through in some tough environments. Um, we have people who are dedicated to actually run gateway for us. Um, and we can pretty much get it wherever you need to. As far as that goes, I would say as far as like the age with wireless that always becomes a big issue, right? Because buildings are made differently, especially back in the day. Put a ton of metal into concrete walls and it's basically every room is a parad gauge. Um, we've come up with good solutions when it comes to that. And again, the the wireless survey will actually tell us whether or not you do need to do an AP in every room in order to house the amount of students

040that might be connected on Chromebooks or laptops to an access point to give them better service. That survey will absolutely tell us that. Um same thing, maybe it's drywall in between every single wall. Maybe you don't need an AP in every single room. We can maybe take that access point and repurpose it somewhere else in the district. The survey will tell us that as well. That's part of the uh your assessment. Yes, correct. I hope that answer your question. Yeah. The other piece I'll add there too is right, it's obviously going to be different urban schools versus rural schools, right? So, we're in New York City or Philadelphia when I talk about redundancy and internet service providers, there's going to be more options, right? In a city, whereas in more rural environment like this here

041at Winslow, there might not be as many options in terms of that redundant second connection or resiliency. So some of the things uh that I've also seen and I'm not an engineer but it's just in my customers is understanding where there may be issues on the provider side as well. So you know sometimes we do these audits thinking okay there's probably an issue within the district and a lot of times it may point back to a provider right so we help them accountable and give you that ammo. Uh we talked about something uh thousand eyes just just as a small example of something that we put in place in other districts that actually shows what we call hop to hop right from going from the service uh provider all the way to the school and

042we can show okay it's actually a comcast issue right just for example or zoom right something to that effect so um depending on the location geography it can be different amongst different school districts yeah we can take that as far as an application goes so like Ryan said through WebEx, you know, Blackboard or whatever other applications you might be hosting. So, we can then give you ammo to go to a Comcast or Verizon and say, "Hey, this isn't our network. We see packet loss on your side. You need to fix stuff." Yes, you mentioned audit. That's where I was going. Sure. Fully fully understanding your analysis and everything. Can you speak more to your audit? Is it an actual audit or what? What does that entail? Yeah. So, basically that would entail us going from

043closet to closet, network device to network to device, taking a look at configurations. Um, deep diving into those. Is there anything wrong with the config? Like, are we missing something? Could it be done differently? Could it be done more efficiently? Uh, and then making those recommendations based off of that. Uh, same thing with so that could also go to the security side too. So, uh, pen testing, EDOS testing, um, basically taking a look from the outside in, what ports are open. So, if you have ports that are open to potential hackers, right? How can we stop that from happening? Um, can we recommend closing certain ports and maybe only allowing certain firewall rules? um basically taking a deep dive into configuration of every single network that we have within districts and then giving you a

044a report based off of that along with recommendations of how we would do it as far as like a high and low level design. Yeah. The other piece there and from a governance perspective, right? I mentioned this before, but one of the things we talked about in our initial meeting and we do within the audit is actually looking at the policies you have in place, right? often and this is the case for a lot of districts, a lot of businesses, you name it, where they have policies in place that they're not actually following, right? So, when it comes to cyber security, that can go as far as uh training for your staff and your teachers, right? I mean, just fish testing and and spam testing for your employees, whatever it may be. If your policies

045are not being enforced or your actual actions aren't aligned with your policies, that's something that we're going to want to call out and make sure it's fixed going forward. Um and we align all of that to uh Keith mentioned it before but the NIS standard which is the highest standard in terms of cyber security. So the audit and the results will actually show you okay here's where you essentially doing what you should be doing and you're following your policies and here's where we recommend you either make a change or align your policies to uh the recommended. Sure. So a couple questions. So and I just heard you talk about the N standards. So if you're talking about the standards versus 800-43 and your FISMA standards, my background is it former CIO. There you go. Yeah.

046So I'm looking to see what you're doing. So you're looking at the FISMA standards, looking at framework, you're looking at um the network like you said ports vulnerabilities. Uh making sure that if your printers and nothing else is engaged, making sure certain ports are shut down. Um the other thing is your recommendations. Do you do poems and for poems that is plans of action and milestones? So your recommendations is that in a form of a poem and you're going to send it back to the school and they can look at it for remediation or h how are you doing that? Yeah, exactly. So that goes back to um I mean I used the color uh reference before. So basically we'll give you all the recommendations. Here's what we would tackle first or here's what we

047would recommend you tackle first. um and then kind of go from there. And then the district can make the decision. We'll give you cost in line with that. And the district can then go ahead and make the decision. Uh what do we want to do? When do we want to do it? And do we want to engage fire or a different vendor to actually help us out with that? So, but the issues that you find uh say you go into the server room and you look and you see they don't have the right redundancy, the right backup or the cabling is all just non non-compliance or what have you. So you would write that in the form of a recommendation said okay this is what you need to remediate is that how you guys that

048would that would be a part of it yes yeah so the risk management okay that's good rest of that sounds pretty good and your standardization how so you're talking about standardization as far as the standards and standardizations for every school like schools one through five through the high school as they're all standardized doing things the same way right same naming conventions of devices you know even on your PC same naming convention same same printer name so anybody can follow it that's part of it and uh the other part of that too that's a great question or a great point um so basically standardization would be device types model types so part of this would also us be going through and picking out end of life or potential end of sale or end of support devices.

049So if there's any of those devices that are actually within the network, um we're going to recommend obviously you take those out and you replace them with new devices, especially the end of support ones. We want those to be under support so if something were to happen, we can then fix it or help you fix it. Um the other part would be trying to get the schools almost uh I'll call it cookie cutter. So this way when you go to troubleshoot, you know, you're not troubleshooting different things throughout the whole district. if there's an issue in one building, you know, you might have the same issue in another building and you can come to a uh faster means of resolution from a troubleshooting standpoint should you have to. So, the idea would be basically the

050same model number of devices at each building. Obviously, there's going to be a different number just because of the size of buildings, but at least the same models. This way, you know, if there's a bug, we can then go ahead and remedy it with a a version upgrade. Um, same thing with the wireless. My understanding is that there's a couple different versions of wireless access points. So obviously you want to kind of standardize on one wireless solution that would help out. Same thing with firewalls. So and you're also going into the closet looking at the cable management just basic small things see make sure that they're doing it and you're the wireless assessment. So you're maybe doing like enhancing triangulization as you're going making sure that you're getting the right angle. you mentioned about uh

051a team you have to like like I said when you're drilling and I used to work at a hospital so you know you had to have containment issues stuff like that but when you're drilling and you're fire stopping so you're doing all the recommendations or or you have another division of your or another division that does that type of cable manage cable cable yeah we use fully licensed insured cable vendors that we've used for many many years has been around for over 20 years Now, we had probably the same same cable vendors for about those 20 years. Uh they are going through they're making sure that we wouldn't use it if they weren't doing it. But like said full fire stop right cable up in the uh in the ceiling making sure I mean obviously

052if you're drilling a hole through the wall we're not leaving a hole in the wall you know I would like to look like my house right I want to leave you with a hole in the wall nothing there. So yeah, they're doing the right thing when they're going through and they're also providing with testing once they run the cabling. Yep. Full testing. Full testing to make sure that it's is working. Yep. They'll give you the results too basically to make sure that hey the cable does work. Um and also that I mean that comes out right when we start deploying stuff too. We'll find out right away if cable needs to be reset or or something like that. They don't charge to come back to reset cable. They just come back out for us. Thank

053you. Just a just a review question. Um to do this properly, you would recommend that this would be done during school session schools around at least parts of it. Yeah. Uh parts of it obviously um some of it because it is intrusive as far as like us walking in and out of out of that can be done after hours or during holiday week breaks or school or summer. But most of it uh especially from the networking side we can do during uh school while people are actually but that's if you had to pick a time that would be the ideal time to do it when it's maximum usage I guess because if there was an issue and it starts opening it had you know log is no one else has question okay And I'll ask

054mine anyway the recommendations that you made to us because I'm have to be budget conscious and cost efficient. But let's say for example we do all the things that you're recommending at least at the highest level. How many years out can we be guaranteed that we don't have to go back through this again? you know, like we good for five years after all this or we good for 10 year, you know, I'm just having an idea because I like to do it right the first time. So in two years we're not back here again. So um with those repairs, upgrades, whatever it may be, how many years out will we be in reference to this type? Yeah, I would say, you know, this is a not a good start, but it depends, right? So in

055terms of hardware um there's a life cycle to everything in it right and and most things in this day and age. So uh we can give very clear and concise guidance uh based on you mentioned end of life end of support right so we certainly want to make sure if something's in support we get that replaced it's no longer supported right there's vulnerabilities so um typically life cycle you're looking at five seven 10 years yeah same thing with software too so obviously software I mean that'll come and go that could be weekly there might be software that comes out so we can't guarantee software but we can at least make recommendations to run like the the best recommended version of code from the vendor at that point in time. Once we get you there, you

056know, it's it can either be on the district to maintain to be on the the recommended version of code or you can work alongside us and we can we can do that for you or help you out, guide you. And we know from our initial discussions as well that uh for example the switching environment was replaced within I believe the last year and a half through the - program. Um same thing with wireless I believe half was done also through and another half is being done as well. So from a hardware standpoint on the switching environment wireless just as an example, we know you you probably have a long life cycle there. Again, we're going to dive into the configurations and some of the nitty-gritty there where there may be some issues. Um and then

057once we get that firmed up, you should be in a good place there. But to K's point, when it comes to software, things do change continually. We'll make the recommendation of the best versions to be on and then at that point, you know, with a road map of how often really you're going to want someone watching that for you, right? Or the IT teacher. Yeah. So just to add to what Dr. said, that's right. But but the the main thing is well not the main thing but your life cycle refresh. So you're going to recommend okay the server that you have will probably last 15 years. Your PCs probably last five, six years. Um I'm I'm not sure about the technology team that that works for you, but they should be looking at your compliance.

058They should be looking at the they should be able to whatever management tools they're using to look at your software and see what the what like let's say Microsoft Word okay the whole Microsoft Office suite okay if it's good for you know five years if it's good two years certain softwares that you use every day you're looking to see that how long the software is used you know so so your IT manager will be looking should be looking and running reports about the different softwares you should have a a whole listing of all your softwares that she used should and when the life expect so that work correct yeah and the solution we we provide just an example that outside of this engagement but patching you're familiar with or release management right so exactly so

059I mentioned in the beginning we do also manage services so there's a lot of districts throughout the state where we are it's called a knock network operations center actually monitors and ingests all the data from the uh from the infrastructure we'll also go in and do patching and release management for as well. So there are ongoing things you can do and and you can take off the IT and tech IT and technology team if you wanted to or to your gentleman's point you can you can have them look at that as well. Right. So last question. Sure. Go ahead and take off the time. If you if someone called you and said I had a virus so I don't know how it works here. Normally like you said you got a knock team. First thing

060we do we shut down the port so nothing happens and then you go remediate. I don't know how that works here. So like you said you can provide that service but I'm thinking that our local team should be able to do that now with the management the network administrator that are management switches and that's one of the things we'll look at right is what are the what is the guidelines currently right so how does the team respond and what are the guidelines for what they do yeah basically we would like we would love to get to a point where you know it's automatically doing that for you so as soon as malware or a virus is detected on a machine, uh, the port would automatically turn off. That device is automatically quarantined into a VLAN

061that does not have access to anything internal. Maybe they have internet only just so that they can do whatever they need to do externally or we can even just shut them down completely, right? the so we eliminate the IT team having to actually like physically remove the device from the network just automatically do it and then the IT team can come and then wipe the device get all the important stuff off of it that they need and then kind of go from there but that would be some of the stuff that we would be recommending and at least trying to get the district to to go to work. So you'll look at the VLANs. The VLANs are in networking. Um let's just say VLANs one through 100. VLAN 100 are your printers. VLAN 250 is

062something else. So you're going to look at the different VLANs and for standardization as everything will be. Yeah. So ideally, you know, every school probably have the same VLAN should be on the same domain. This way you know users are on VLAN 2 render VLAN 100 whatever. this way when you're troubleshooting. Again, going back to the standardization. Um, same thing with quarantine VLANs where you know they if a device gets protected with malware, it just automatically goes through a quarantine van where it's sandbox. They can't touch anything internally. So, to to alleviate any like malware, ransomware attacks or leg again. So, when you're doing your when you're doing your assessment, and I'm, you know, I'm not techsavvy. I know enough if I don't recognize the the email that comes in and I'm getting a a

063fax, I don't get fax on my I just ship them over to it and I go spam and they'll go, "Yeah, spam." And then I delete it. Um, but I'm I'm hearing you what you What are you saying? where you're making everything unified or the coding is the same like you're saying such and such is 100. If you find that we're not set up like that, that would be a recommendation or do you come in and we would have to then go back out to you or re or source some service to get a standardizing? Yeah. As part of this as part of this engagement, that would be a recommendation. So that would come out in our report at the end. Uh so that would be part of like a tactful recommendation to say okay

064well you know school four was on this VLAN versus school two live on this VLAN or you know these configurations didn't match up to how we would do it. That would also be part of our our high and low level design as to how we would do the network if if we were configuring. Is that a red, yellow or green situation? That's a good question. It can vary. Right. So if if every school is completely different I would say that would be red. If there was one school, you know, that name that the BLM was separate, I would say that would probably be more of a yellow, you know, you don't have to get to that one right away, but eventually I would say yes, you do need to get to that. Um, if all

065schools are are good, you know, it's green, we don't need to touch it. But I would say it would vary. Would you have a question? I do. Sure. Just because I'm I'm trying to framework this. It's May 14th. We still have to approve, right? You have to prove the likelihood last day of school is June 17th. Would you be able to get in and do your in student practice like assessments before summer break or we looking at September kind of coming back with your recommendations? Yeah. So, I mean obviously we would have to move pretty quick, right? Yeah. So, um great question. We can definitely still do all the assessments without building. It'll still give us pretty much the same results as far as all that goes. We'll be able to see past use cases.

066Ideally, we do have students in the building. Again, back to your point, that would be the most ideal scenario. If not, it's not the end of the world. We can still do the investment. We can still give you our best practice recommendations because configuration changes probably aren't going to change, especially if DLANs aren't matching up in certain spots. If spanning tree isn't configured properly in certain areas, you know, things like that. um what really would matter with students in the building would be you know like bandwidth internet pipe configurations things like that um that's where that would really hold us up I think at those pieces we can move quicker though make them the first part of the right that would be the first thing that we tackle uh I mean we could also look

067at previous logs too so whatever the district has if they have a management platform we can go through and we kind of see what the uh the prior use cases were if there were any logs that were showing up that the internet was getting pegged for some reason. We can go back and just kind of check check that part. I think part of the the thought behind getting the audit was to prepare for you know looking at providing more technology as our students need you know in general schools are becoming more tech heavy. Um there's much more um need for Chromebooks being used in different in in a higher capacity. So I just was trying to feel like in my mind frame out like what the time what what that would look like given the

068time constraints for the end of the school year and preparing for a new school year to be budget conscious because I went down we're budget conscious. If you take a look at the addendum they're heading it up. So you know it's possible that if the board likes what they're hearing quickly. Yeah. That was kind of how quickly if we said yesterday we'd be there like next week after after especially since it's state testing this window of time frame. So there is a lot of usage across multiple schools multiple grade levels but you can't whatever you do don't mess with testing. No don't even open the door. We did that last year. not but the with the students it's it's really not a big deal. It it's a deal but like you said you can look

069at the reporting and stuff a lot of things that you have to do as far as a wireless and mapping and and looking at the network. You can do that from behind the scenes and you won't even know they're there as far as that. So just let people know it's good to have the students there sometimes but that's not a showstopper to where you know you can't do it without having students there right two questions so just that I understand this correctly this current engagement that's up for bid now this would just be you coming in auditing saying okay this is what we need to implement but it wouldn't be you guys coming back to check all the implementation at a later date. Correct. Right. Because it doesn't include uh for example remediation. That's right.

070Okay. And then my second question is I know you said you would talk to students, teacher staff. Would that also include an audit of our current technology team um any recommendations for training or um reertifications they might need in order to maintain systems? Yeah, I mean we can certainly work along with them. I mean, obviously, I spent a great deal of time doing consulting in in districts, basically shoulder-to-shoulder with most of these people. Um, so I do a lot of talking while I'm there and I'm more than welcome to to stand over our shoulder as we're doing most of this. Um, but yeah, as we go through, we can ask them what certifications they have for sure and say, "Hey, you know, maybe you want to look at going for a certification or maybe you

071want to take a look at this new one that's out that might help you out down the down the road." Right. So, yeah, we can absolutely go through that. And then my next two questions are actually for the administration particularly Dr. So once this audit is complete, would these results be made aware of the public? We know what the results of the audit. We can follow the same process we're following now. Um in terms of what is being recommended because in order for us to move forward with purchasing for repairs, it has to have board approval. So everything that we are giving you have to bring back. But would we know like specifically let's say we knew that school five had a particular core experience as opposed to maybe school one that might explain the

072security issues security obviously right right because of course you being board member you know that there's certain things we can't um but I think uh as far as maintenance upgrades and things like that sure we can have that that's part of the buck That's information. My other question probably for ML was Aspire the only bid that came in for this audit. We actually reached out to Kerasoft who is the New Jersey School Board Association vendor I think for another project and we saw that they had that they performed these audits for technology which was great. Um I believe Michael Ponte reached out to Aspire. So Aspire is under the carousol umbrella. They were brought in they had a meeting with Dr. Ty 15, Michael Ponte who is the text and um basically we I'm assuming

073they liked what they heard and we started moving forward. I would not have to go out and redo a bid process because they have already been they've already been so expedited. Consider that a conflict of interest because we brought in our current. No, because actually I think I think Mike had brought up a spire. Miss Chico had known that Kerasoft had been awarded other work and on their site with Parasol because they also do this. Kerasol then farms it out piggybacks with other companies. I don't call farming out on their list. or I don't know if Mike has had any other previous experience with them. Have you done anything else with Mr. Ponte? No, this would be our first engagement with uh Mr. Fonte or Wings School District. We won't take it easy on them

074or anything like that. Oh, no. We got whip. No, we're here to make sure that the district is going. So, that that brings me to a question that she said. So, my last question. So, You're looking at the local IT team here, the how they do their business as far as are they doing the right thing for when some a new student comes in, a new teacher comes in, giving them access, are they giving rules of behavior, are they the different mechanisms, how they do their standard business? Are you looking at the the current IT uh team that's here, how they're working on PCs, how they're deploying, you know, they're doing things smartly, are they using the network, the management times to, like I said, push out patches versus going to the machine themselves and

075stuff, right? So, are you looking at the standard daily practices of the IT team that's here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. So, ultimately, yes. So, part of the audit, right? So, we're going to look at at the daily practices and the standard operating procedures, right? Also when things are found we'll we'll start to dig deeper that'll say okay you know let's say something within the configuration we can then work backwards to say how did this occur right so um you know look we're we're certainly not going to necessarily point fingers or things of that sort but the nature of audit results are going to point to hey maybe there was a a policy that was misaligned maybe there was a procedure that missed and this is an area that that can be fixed and that'll be

076part of the recommendation right so kind of inherently as part of the recommendation you'll be able to see some areas where there can be some improvements. Thank you gentlemen for coming out. I do want you to know we had a couple plants in the audience. Just to make sure to make sure the same time what time is dinner with Mr. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Appreciate it. Thank you. appreciate you. I think it was tried to keep it at high level. Thank you. Thank you. Can I Did you hear me not say that? We'll be replacing. I don't think that's You're right. I know my skills. Before we get started back again, um I'd like to thank uh committee woman from W 3, um Miss uh Lee for uh being with us tonight.

077That's deputy mayor, sir. I'm sorry, deputy mayor. I'm sorry. Good evening. I just didn't want like we also got veteran media uh George Bethl here with us tonight. Thanks for coming out. Thanks for your service. Um thank everyone for coming out because um um those who are techn technologically savvy uh for asking those questions that you felt were pertinent uh that some of us would not have normally asked. And uh hopefully you are satisfied with the presentation and that the board will feel comfortable in moving forward with this team that we presented tonight. So uh thank you for coming out. We appreciate it. Moving on to correspondence. There any correspondence tonight? No. Um Mr. President, none. Moving on to minutes. Can I have a motion to approve the following meeting minutes for regular meeting open

078and close session for uh April 30th, 2025? Peterson move for approval of the regular open and closed minutes from April the 30th, 2025. Second. Uh any questions? All right, no questions. Roll call, please. Miss Dreen, yes. Miss Claude, yes. Miss Martin, yes. Mr. McManis, yes. Miss Peterson, yes. Mr. Thomas, yes. And Mr. Shaw, yes. The motion has carried. And I have a motion to approve the the meeting minutes from our special meeting for the budget hearing on May 7th, 2025, open session. Leaders to move for approval of the special meeting held on May 7th, 2025, open session. and second. Any questions? Roll call, please. Miss Dreen, yes. Miss Claw, yes. Miss Martin, yes. Mr. McManis, yes. Miss Peterson, yes. Mr. Thomas, yes. And Mr. Shaw, yes. Motion has carried. Moving on to our board committee

079reports. Mr. Thomas, is there a committee report from the athletic committee? Absolutely. Winsow Township High School celebrating excellence in athletics and the arts. The Winsow girls track team makes history at the Camden County Championship. The Winsow girls track and field team has once again raised the bar for excellence, setting a new Camden County record for the most points ever scored at the county championships with dominating performance across sprint, distance, and field events. the team catcher multiple titles and solidified his reputation on one of the New Jerseys premier athletic programs. Standout victories included first place finishes in the 4x100 relay 100 meter hurdles and the long job. The team's depth, work ethic, and drive were evident throughout the competition with several athletes achieving personal best and qualifying for the state level events. I'd just like to

080commend them and also our drama club. The Winslow drama club continues to make waves across the region earning multiple Cappy nominations for the outstanding spring production recognized in major categories including best play, lead actor, actress, stage management management. Production was praised for his emotional death, technical quality and strong ensemble of work. In conclusion, Winslow Township High School remains a shining example of how dedication, talent, teamwork can create a culture of excellence. Whether on the track, the stage, or on the performance floor, our students continue to exceed expectations and inspire our entire community. That's the report from the athletic. Thank you, Mr. Thomas. And to piggyback on your uh mention of the Caffies, um we happen to win the two best uh major Cathy's awards. Um what was it? Best musical for Mama Mia and what

081was it? The female um female vocalist. Female vocalist. Right. Oh, I know it was, but I I'm sorry, Miss uh Miss Murphy, but as soon as he mentioned it, I wanted to make sure that was loud and proud. So can't help but you know be very proud of our drama club and our stage crew. So um Miss Martin um anything from the citizens advisory committee with you and Miss Neves? Yes Miss Nz. So I'm not as tall as that gentlemen. Uh thank you members of the board. Uh the CAC met uh last Thursday May 8th at 6:30 via Zoom. Um some of the key takeaways we discussed the uh tech audit being approved and the price uh in that regard. Uh the insult meeting being tonight May 14th. Uh community engagement remains a significant challenge.

082Uh need for innovative solutions solution focused approaches. Uh there's a potential Rowan University PR collaboration for positive district exposure that Miss Renuli shared with us. um and a need to review and follow up on previous CAC recommendations to the board. So again, we talked about the technology audit update. Uh community engagement challenges, uh low attendance at budget hearings and superintendent real talks have kind of prevented more open dialogue. Uh success with events featuring student performances or specific parent events uh like the past events that do very well. uh the suggestion to flip-flop from discussing issues to solution-based approaches and the idea to organize small groupoup discussions in person or via Zoom breakout rooms on specific topics that's within the CAC. Um the HSA continues to be kind of a worry that we have in the

083dipping numbers there. Um there is declining parent participation. discussion was had around the fact that is it is due to reduce school access and incentives for parents to be a part of the HSA. Uh there was a suggestion to reinstate parent volunteers with background checks as we used to do way back when. I'm not going to date myself though. Um and explore policies to incentivize HSA participation and leadership. Um, I know the CAC had talked about creating an SOP for all HSAs to kind of have to make it a little bit easier for those to take on those leadership roles. Uh, the CAC has yet to actually hear from any current or former HSA members. So, this is my public plea to anybody who's currently on a HSA that wants to help us get a

084standard operating procedure for the HSA together so we can pass that on so they don't die out. That would be amazing. Um, as far as teacher retention and support uh goes, uh, the dress code changes for, uh, staff has been very wellreceived, is my understanding. Um, and we talked about further initiatives in order for teacher retention, but we know due to contract negotiations that may be a little difficult at the moment, but still they they do like the jeans on Friday. Um, I mentioned the potential PR collaboration with Rowan University. Um and even amongst ourselves with the CAC um and operations, we do struggle with communication within our own organization. So we've discussed possibly utilizing text messages or Zoom because we've kind of got the technology bucket that we set for ourselves kind of done

085as we really want to focus on community engagement and teacher retention throughout this year. and of course to help give the board members something to go into for your August retreat in case we want to switch some of the district goals around. Um so that was that. We did have three recommendations come out of this meeting. Um follow up on all outstanding CAC recommendations. Now I won't hold your feet to the fire on the last ones that we just gave because it was only a couple weeks. Um, but the one that I did see that was outstanding was in regards to the student misconduct and the use of their cell phones while filming fights and whether there's going to be a change to that if anybody wanted to speak to that one. Yes. Uh, Miss

086NV is the um cell phone policy and taping u fighting or whatever extracurricular activities that take place during the school hours that is being addressed by the administration and uh we will be making recommendations for that change. Thank you Dr. Potit. Our second recommendation was for the board to approve a CAC town hall for solutionbased discussion for stakeholders regarding community engagement. And our third recommendation was a request for an update on the district's PR leaison and anything that that may be coming from Miss Furlo. And that was all I had. If anyone has any questions, I would just like to say something in regards to the parent participation. I've been going to the different school events that's been happening at the school that's been on the calendar and I've been um completely in awe see

087how packed those gyms are with parents and their children going out to those after school events. um parents are being engaged and involved um and those events when it comes to directly dealing with their children, we may just have to work a little bit harder on how do we get them more involved. They may be coming out here to the board meetings or um where they could have more dialogue with the board and with the community. But seeing the parents at these events, it just warms my heart to see that those gyms and the STEM programs that I visited um at school five. I've been to um the middle schools uh parent community night. It was a great outcome there. Um and I went to school three for their ice cream social. Um these kids

088and these parents are participating and they are doing a great job. So we got to also give the applause to those parents who are actively um engaging in their children in activities with their children as well as trying to engage with the parents who having a little bit of issue with coming through to us. No, absolutely. And I agree, Mr. Uh Monday night was schools five and six uh spring uh band and orchestra concert. It was a packed house. Um and last night was the middle school's uh band and orchestra performance as well. sounded amazing and again the parking was very very hard to come by so definitely doing amazing things so appreciate that. Anyone else? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Martin. Back to you again for the education committee. Nothing at this

089time, Mr. McManis. Marking committee. Yes, sir. Um, marketing committee minutes. Uh, marketing committee we met on Saturday, September 10th, 2025, approximately 300 p.m. And attendance were Windinslow, Joe Thomas, uh, Juan Dunlau, and, uh, myself. Uh, items that we had discussed. Sorry. The date of that meeting again, Mr. May. Saturday the 10th. May. Yes, sir. Thank you. Um items discussed include uh we had discussed prior a board presence over on the Junth but we um expanded uh the scope of uh board presence and the with tent uh the 10th the 10th sorry over at not just the Junth celebration on Saturday June 21st but also the fireworks on Friday July 4th family day August 23rd and the fall festival uh on October 4th. The committee recommends that the board's presence at those events. Uh purpose for

090this is to highlight um student achievement as well enhance the board's outreach within the community by availing themselves to the community. We are currently working on themes that could be used for each of these events. Uh Mr. Thomas reminded the committee of the items that are needed that would be addressed ahead of time, including but not limited to the table, the chairs, uh, tent, table, uh, water if that we chose to go in that direction. Mr. Thomas also suggested coordination with the township and bench coordinator. Also discussed the assembling of a pamphlet that highlights student achievement. And as we know here at the board, there's almost too many name to name. But we wanted to put something in the hands of the uh community, highlighting uh student achievement in the areas of uh academics, sports,

091performing arts, uh band, and color guard, drama, um and so on. A lot of good stories to be able to share with the community. Uh, and this is a really good opportunity to be able to reach out and remind the community of of these of these go of these sorry achievements in the district. The committee will design and submit uh and get a quote given to the board to cover the costs of this of this pamphlet that could be used throughout the year at these different events. Uh, I ask that I might be able to meet with Dr. coat supply a list of student achievement list as has been done in the past and maybe a template uh that we uh would be recommended that we would be able to assemble that meeting. The meeting

092concluded approximately 400 p.m. Uh next meeting is scheduled for 3 p.m. May 24th uh once again at the McManus House with uh refreshments served of the homemade variety. Thank you, Mr. Mr. McManis, can I ask a question? Ma'am, uh Chisur's day is uh June 14th. They're part of our district. Are we I love it. Great idea. Uh they have an application now. They have an application. I'll send it to you. Thank you. Moving on to the operations committee. Not at this time, Mr. President. Does anybody um have anything from the policy and the policy committee? No. Okay. Okay. Um Mr. Thomas, the next two committees from the economic development council and the municipal drug out. Not at this time there, Mr. President. Okay. No problem. Um, and there's nothing from the planning board at this

093time. So, we'll move on to the superintendent report. May I have a motion for approval of the superintendent report as is recommended for approval by the superintendent? Peterson move for approval of the superintendent report as approved by the superintendent. Item A and B found on page four and 8. You ready? Second. Any questions? Roll call, please. Miss Dreen, yes. Miss Glaude, yes. Miss Martin, yes. Mr. McManis, yes. Miss Peterson, yes. Mr. Thomas, yes. And Mr. Shaw, yes. Motion has carried. And I have a motion to approve the BI business administrator board secretaries report as it's written for approval by the uh re as a as is recommended by the business administrator board secretary Peterson move for approval of the business this administrative board secretary report as he as recommended down item A and B page

0949 through Any questions? Good. Second. Sorry. Any questions? Roll call, please. Miss Freddy, yes. Miss Glaude, yes. Miss Martin, yes. Mr. McManis, yes. Miss Peterson, yes. Mr. Thomas, yes. And Mr. Shaw, yes. The motion has carried. Moving on to the personnel report. Can I have a motion to approve the personnel report as it's uh recommended for approval by the superintendent? Peterson to move for approval of the superintendent's report as recommended by the superintendent. Item A found 1 through 12 found on page 15 through 21. Second. Any questions? Roll call, please. Miss Dre. Yes. Miss Glo, yes. Miss Martin, yes. Mr. McManis, yes. Miss Peterson, yes. Mr. Thomas, yes. And Mr. Shaw, yes. The motion has carried. Moving on to our agenda. If you haven't had a chance already, please take a couple minutes to look

095at our addendum. Can I have a motion to approve the superintendence report on the on page one of our addendum as is uh recommended for approval by our superintendent? Peterson move for approval of superintendent's report as he recommended that on item A one through two page one second. Any questions? Roll call please. Missing? Yes. Miss Glo? Yes. Miss Martin? Yes. Mr. McManis? Yes. Miss Peterson? Yes. Mr. Thomas? Yes. And Mr. Shaw? Yes. The motion has carried. Can I have a motion to approve the board secretaries report as it's uh recommended for approval by the business administrator board secretary Peterson move for approval of business administrator board secretaries report as she approved item A 1 through 8 page 2 through 4 second. Any questions? Roll call please. [Music] Miss Fredd. Yes. Miss Glo, yes. Miss Martin,

096yes. Mr. McManis, yes. Miss Peterson, yes. Mr. Thomas, yes. And Mr. Shaw, yes. But I need to abstain from letter A number five. [Applause] Yes. Oh, the motion has carried. I'm sorry. Moving on to our personnel report on the agendum. Can I have a motion to approve the personnel report as it's uh recommended for approval by our superintendent? Peterson. Move for approval of the superintendent approved recommendation under personnel item A 1 through 4 found on page 5 through six. Any questions? Roll call, please. Miss Dredded, yes. Miss Glaude, yes. Miss Martin, yes. Mr. McManis, yes. Miss Peterson, yes. Mr. Thomas, yes. And Mr. Shaw, yes. The motion has carried. Moving on to open public records uh act requests. M. Yes, Mr. President. Between the period of April 25th, 2025 and May 8th, 2025, we responded

097to one request from Frank Patterson from Academy Research Group. Uh they requested an up-to-date list of our current employees, full names, hire date, phone numbers, email addresses, and salary if possible in a digital format. Those records um were provided. I'm um any phone numbers that would have been provided would have been district not um not personal. So those records were supplied. Thank you very much. M moving on toformational items. Yes. Uh Mr. President, members of the board and community, I have a few information items. First, I would like to inform the members of the board. If you don't already know, the Winsow Township McGovern body will be having their Memorial Day tribute on May 26 at 10:00 a.m. We were or we received an invitation asking how many board members will be participating on that

098day. Uh Mr. Shaw, we already submitted your name, but I wanted to make sure all the board members had an opportunity. Um, that is something that is normally um well attended by school board members in the past. Um, so I'll pass that on to you, Mr. President. Um, I would also like to inform the board and the community that there's a new tick- tock trend out there among young people um, who are shoving instruments of any kind, paper clips and all those other things into the batteries of Chromebooks which are starting fire um, throughout the country. We had a situation in one of our neighboring school districts last week. So, we have submitted this information to all the principles to let them know that be on the watch. Uh that this is a tick- tock

099challenge among young people. And for whatever reason, um I think they're taking pleasure out of destroying Chromebooks. Um, so I just wanted to let you know that since we have been talking about Chromebooks these past few months, uh, that there is a trend out there. So, we're on top of it and, uh, want to make sure that you are aware. Um, I do have a followup for the board on the um, potential food pantries at the building level. We have four schools who have stated they have space. um schools four, five, six and middle school. However, the spaces in each of the school will vary in size depending on their availability. Um these individual principles are are willing to you know participate. However, you know, they all have some concerns and and rightly so. But

100at this point, we have four schools um that are willing to participate or four schools that have space in order to participate. All right. Last but not least, very important night here at Winslow Township School District, senior awards night is Tuesday, May 27th, uh at 6 PM in the Sarah Gordy Auditorium. Um that will give board members in the community an opportunity to see the number of young people particularly our seniors of course who are receiving uh numerous scholarships and awards as well as uh those individuals who be u awarded and going on to college to further their education. Uh so all board members and community are welcome to attend senior awards night uh at the high school cereal or uh Mr. President that concludes my information items for this evening. Thank you Dr. Pot.

101Moving on to old business. Is there any old business? Mr. President. Yes, sir. Mr. I move to unt personnel appointment motion made on Wednesday, April 2023, 2026 for discussion and executive session. I move to have it on Wednesday, June 11th, 2025 that all applicants and uh employees are notified accordingly of this move. President second. Thank you, Mr. Thomas. A roll call. Okay. Roll call, please. Miss Dreton? Yes. Miss Glo? Yes. Miss Martin? Yes. Mr. McManis? Yes. Miss Peterson? Yes. Mr. Thomas? Yes. And Mr. Shaw? Yes. Motion has carried. Any other old business? Moving on to new business. Any any new business? Mr. President, I do have a topic on the new business. I'd like to uh address or discuss. I know we had our last budget meeting uh last uh week and Mrs. Bole gave

102a fabulous budget pre presentation and she she led us to understand that there may be a necessary need for a new building. And I'd just like to elaborate on that and also see if we can reach out to some other entities including the township and the mayor and maybe the uh head of the uh fire department uh uh Mr. Celli and other people and that may be impacted by the uh continuous but great economic growth that's happening in our township to make sure that we get in front of that and that we can accommodate such growth in our township well at this point um members of the board um if not an additional building at least at least at a minimum an extension at um all of our lower elementary schools. Um because that's where

103our biggest growth at this point appears. Um it may be more costefficient if we just extend all of our buildings have significant land around them. Uh do something similar to what we did uh at school 4 but not a gymnasium but classrooms. Uh, I think that will immediately address our needs as we continue to grow and uh, maybe somewhere in the near future or down the road you can look at a new building of some sort. But I think our most efficient and our fastest growth is at the lower elementary schools. So I think at schools one, two, and three, you have an excellent uh, options to do some things in reference to addition classrooms. How how far into the future do you think that would be a necessity? Well, I I think the sooner

104the better. And the reason I say that is because you don't want to wait until it happens, right? You want to prepare so as the community grows, we already have space to accommodate them as they come. Um I I would say um in and meeting with the leadership team um it was only discussion but if that's something you want to seriously entertain I think now is the time for us to start the planning process and uh maybe um select which school will have the greatest impact and where you want to build first. Um I don't think we'll be able to do all three at the same time. We may be in one and two, same time, maybe three, whatever it may be. But I'm not in a position to give you that uh timeline because

105we really haven't sat down and planned. Um, but my initial response is low elementary schools one, two, and three. I think if the board would concur, I think Well, Miss Glow, go ahead. Is there a way that we can get um It's been boggling my mind. I'd like to know if we can get the number of schools in each of the lower elementary schools. Well, actually from six, five and six. How many students are in each of those classes? I mean in those schools, the school capacity for each student for the students and also the capacity of students allowable in each of the elementary schools and how many kids we children we have in each of the elementary schools right now. I'd like to get that number. We can do that. Thank you. We have

106those numbers already. Um, I'll have it available to you at the next board meeting. Um, off the top of my head, for example, um, school five, they're always hovering around 500. School five is 500 plus. Uh, school six is probably right around 500. So, we're always around 500 at schools five and six. But to get exact numbers per school, their capacity for growth. Um, so that's schools one through six. Mrs. G. Yes. And then because of your we're speaking of expanding the elementary schools because they're a possibility of expanding the elementary schools, but you have you have four elementary schools that go to two upper elementary schools and then those two ele upper elementary schools they move on to one middle school. So I would like to find out what the capacity also for the

107middle school is and how many students are currently in there and what's the progre progre um projected growth for the middle school and next year. We um just off the top of my head, Mrs. Glad to respond. Um most of our growth is with three year olds, four year olds, and 5-year-olds. We we we have to have room for them because that population is growing. [Music] Um and of course each year we know how many are going into the middle school because we take the numbers of sixth graders from um both of schools five and six. Uh but in order to uh as Mr. Gla has requested in order to address exact accurate numbers I would have to compile that information and provide it to you for the next meeting. I appreciate it. Thank you.

108And if I may add, once we get these numbers, could we make sure that we we share with the particular governing body and police and and EMTs to let them know where we stand at that so they can have an update um on how we're we're partnering with them to to make sure we have the proper housing I mean the proper seats for the housing and all the constructors that's going on. So just make sure that we do a one page to give them to give them an update of where we stand on that topic. Mr. President. Yes, ma'am. I think you and I thought u my colleagues for thinking u proactive. However, I think it's more impactful if you look at the group over the past three years to project what would happen in

109the next three. So, if you saw some great um increases in particular schools or grades, you need to know that. So I'm looking at an assessment where it looks back three years and then you can project what will happen. I concur with Dr. Boti that the growth is in the three and four year program because that's a full pro full day program versus some of our counterparts that only have a part-time program. Well, I'm going to ask the board, Dr. Potit you um if you don't mind I'm going to ask the board that we we asked Dr. to do an assessment with this and coincide with the uh the township based on with Miss uh Peterson's recommendation from the past three years moving into the next three years with all the growth that we've had

110and the growth that we're looking into with all the housing that is coming to Winslow Township based on what we're currently ongoing and what we're getting with the especially with the DR our Horton development over off of Choose Landing and Cichlerville Roads, which is an additional [Music] 536 houses and residential units. So based upon all this information, we got to work with the township to figure out what the impact would be, what the importance would be for which school gets the priority of um additions and where this would come. And it's not, you know, Miss Glaude, those numbers that you want, we can have at the next meeting. But this is going to be something that Dr. Boutique and his administration team, it's going to take them some time to get to us, but this

111is something that, you know, well, actually, the thing that I asked for, he said he can have for next meeting. Yeah, I said he's going to have that for you next meeting. Peterson just suggested is something I can see him having a little bit more time. Yeah, that's fine. Yes. But I'm asking the board to, you know, allow Dr. Potit to be able to do that study co and coincide with the with our township officials. Yes. If that's okay with the board, it's a good idea because the especially I'm glad you touched on it was the new construction that's going on. It's going to in because depending upon the type of uh of residential unit, it would affect the school district differently. uh the the larger single family homes might initially impact the school district

112in the middle and high schools more so than say a a condo or a town home. So this is not something we need next week or the next board meeting. This is something that you can take your time to do. Thank you, Mr. President. Because it can't happen. No, tomorrow. So, if the board is if the board is okay with Dr. Potit doing a long-term assessment impact study with the future construction of our school district, yes, that would be something that I think would be beneficial to not only our community and the future residents of Winslow Township with our governing body and the board of education working together. Can I just make um one assessment in reference to what has occurred in the past? Yes, sir. Um the part of the assessment that will always

113be um very very difficult to gauge and that is when a development goes up, how can you determine how many children will come out of that development? And the reason I say that is the new development that was uh built across the street from school 4 and that was one of the reasons why we expanded school four because we saw the growth there. Do you know how many students we got out of that development? I'm assuming not very many. Probably about four or five. So it it depends. and and and I'm only saying that because you really don't know whether families are coming in um with children and you know the new trend is um people are getting married or not getting married and not having large families they wait until later in life. So

114these are the things we have been able to follow right however uh it's it's not always the type of housing or whatever it may be uh because you know we missed the mark on that one because we tried to anticipate but again uh we will do our very best in trying to do an assessment long term um but you can never really pinpoint how many children will come out of the development so we'll we'll do our very best and quite Sure. With all the the developments that's going on, let's say for example, the one that's going on right across the street from the middle school. Yes. There's no way for us to know how many children are going to come from that development. And always keep in mind that they're not always coming from one

115grade. You know, you build development, you get some that's kindergarteners, you get some one first grade, third grade, and they spread out throughout the district. So it's not like one school is going to be impacted as opposed to another. So what we'll do uh put our numbers together for next board meeting and then u I'll have a conversation uh with Mr. Gallagher to talk about what's going on as far as as uh as we look at the growth and development and probably give you some good estimates or guesstimates in terms of um student growth. But we'll do we'll do our very best. Okay. Thank you very much, Dr. Pat. And Mr. President, I have one more item I want to ask little information. I know when we first started in January, it was a urban

116voice committee where I got some great information, but was giving me some foresight on, you know, how the, you know, Washington DC was doing anything. And I was wondering, can we get an update on that or what's going on from, you know, up top coming that's trickling down to us from that urban boys committee? Miss Martin, I haven't received anything from them. Yeah, I haven't seen anything from school boards about an an update uh an updated date on an urban boards committee meeting since that last urban boards meeting. Correct. And there has been no information passed on from the um workshops that they had the presentations. We have not received anything from them since then. Right. So, um, if you if you want, you can pass that along to me and I'll do whatever I

117can to see if I can get some information from, uh, Ray Penny. Thank you, Mr. President. Any other new business? Mr. Long, your favorite part of the meeting? Yes, sir. Moving on to public comments. The Winslow Township Board of Education highly values the input of citizens in making important decisions that affect the children of our community. We believe in the rights of citizens to observe board meetings to ensure that all of our citizens have the opportunity to attend board meetings and offer comment and to ensure that the board can conduct the important business of the district. We ask that speakers follow the guidelines for making public comment. The board secretary will recognize those individuals in the audience who wish to make comment. We'd ask that you kindly respect the following procedures. One, all me members

118of the public attending schoolboard meetings must treat each other and the board with respect. Please state your full name and town of residents. Your address is not needed. Please limit your comments to four minutes. In the event you have a question, uh, please submit it to the board along with your name, address, telephone number, and email address where you can be contacted. Your questions will be answered if they can't be tonight within a reasonable time frame. Finally, individuals offering citizen comment are not permitted to make any personal attacks on any district employee, board member, other testifier, or member of the public. Thank you, sir. Excuse me. I have a motion to move into public comments. Peter Simmon for approval to enter into open comments. Second. All in favor? I miss Bo. Uh Debbie Gy. Good

119evening. Um I'm Debbie Murphy. I live in as touched on by Mr. Thomas and Mr. Shaw. The drama club went to the Cappies Gala. And for those who don't know, the Cappies is basically the Tony Awards for high schoolers. The cast and crew of Momia won three Cappies, a spirit award, and two cast members got scholarships. We got best musical which which shows the determination and continued support and commitment that the school administration and board puts into the club. It also shows how great and successful our our theater program at Winsow Township truly is. They also our crew, our stage crew won best set and Shiloh Garnett who played Donna won best female vocalist. Michaela Villan Noea won the spirit award and oh I'm going to butcher this name. Daniel Assa and Anthony Bambino won

120the New York Film Academy scholarships. And then I do have two questions. With the impact that might come from the new housing, have we thought about the impact that the transportation department is going to face with the increase of students? Yes. Um uh we are dealing with the growth of in transportation as we speak. Um transportation grows whether you have additional students or not. So we deal with transportation all the time. Um when you get more little people third three year old four year olds that is transportation. When you have students who are going out of district that requires transportation uh students who are going to um choice schools as those numbers increase we continue to purchase more buses. We do have a rotation of buses on a regular basis so we can keep our

121fleet upgraded. Uh I think we up to about 105 buses now somewhere like that. I don't know what one faced me off yesterday, right? But uh I know we have probably about 105 buses now at a minimum and um that number continues to grow. Our fleet continues to grow every year. So yes, we are dealing with it. And as we continue to plan uh Miss Murphy for the growth, we also have to plan to increase our fleet of buses. Okay. And then as we're looking at incre as we're looking at expanding our lower elementary schools, right, is that going to become a problem to having to expand the upper elementary schools when like the population moves up? No. Um because as I stated, uh all of our schools have um areas for growth. Uh we

122have a lot of land and property around all of our schools. So the potential for growth is still there for all of our schools. So um I would say as our part of our long range planning um an extension on each of those schools would probably be in our best interest to consider. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, Miss Murphy. Thank you, Miss Murphy. I have um Jay Cohill. I'm assuming it's Pill. Good evening. Good evening. Thank you for allowing me the space to speak. I want to take a moment to address not just a recent incident involving my son and an aid in this building, but the larger concern of how actions within school 6 often contradict the very mission they stand behind. Winslow School 6's mission is to provide a safe, nurturing,

123and challenging environment where all students are inspired, supported, and empowered. However, I have witnessed and continue to address instances where that mission is not being upheld for my child. When an aid assigned to support students with IEPs speaks to a child in a belittling tone, asking, "Are you a fourth grader or a baby for untied shoes and threatens them with detention over perceived speech patterns? That is not nurturing, that is not empowering, that is not safe." My child accurately recounted this incident and it was confirmed in a meeting attended by the building principal, the aid and the assistant principal. At the start of that meeting that I did eventually have um the aid was cracking their knuckles and asked what I needed clarification on. Yet when I asked if there was a mutual understanding at

124the end of the meeting, the aid responded by laughing. That reaction alone shows a lack of professionalism and a lack of emotional intelligence, both of which are required to create a supportive and challenging learning environment. Your mission calls for students to thrive with high expectations and demonstrate courage, strength, and confidence. But how can a child demonstrate courage when adults assigned to support them use their power to intimidate or shame them? How can a child be expected to apply critical thinking when their emotional well-being is constantly unsettled by those who should be protecting it? This is not just about my child. It is about accountability and whether the values of this of this school district are are cons are are consistently practiced or only posted. Excellence is the only standard and I agree. But excellence must

125include how students are spoken to, how conflicts are addressed, and how families are respected when they raise concerns. I will continue to hold every adult accountable who disrupts my child's educational space. And I ask you reflect deeply on whether your staff's actions align with the mission you proudly represent. Thank you. That concludes those that have signed up to speak. I don't know if there is um anybody on at this time at this time. I do have And sir, when when you're done, if you could come just sign so I have your name as my six-year-old says. No way. Good evening. Good day. So, I have a quick question. And so with the growth of the school, uh my son currently goes to school number four and I believe that's under your purview. The traffic cuz

126we we drop them off every day and it's a nightmare. You have to be in the middle of the street and then the buses come by. Sometimes they go a little fast and my wife recently was in the auto accident because I forgot the name of street when you somebody rushing to get in sideswiped her. But yeah, she, you know, damaged her car, but it wasn't too much of a damage, but still an accident. She was a little shaken trying to get trying to pick up our son. So my question is, and and that during the summer, I think he went to school, too. Uh it's a little different situation with the resources, but there's a different way that they do parking. It worked out pretty fine. But in school four where my son currently

127uh attends is the middle of the street and then the parking and it's just with the is there a plan to expand that or or a better way to you know that's my question because it's it's it's a crapshoot every day. Yeah. Yes. And it has been an ongoing problem for us for a number of years. um the school district does not have the authority and I'm not blameshifting but in order for us to modify you know a street and uh moving curbage and things like that so you have more room that is something we would have to uh work out with the township if it is a township street because a lot of streets in Winslow you have to find out whether it's a township street whether it's a state venue all those kinds

128of things. So, you understand what I'm saying? But as a school district, no, we have not. Um, but I think it is something that needs to eventually be addressed because that has been an existing problem. We don't have a solution uh because of size of school parking for the entire staff, buses to come in and right now the only place we have cars to wait getting in and out is the street. So, we would have to collaborate uh with the township and or the state in order for anything to happen. We don't have that authority to make those kind of adjustments. I would hope that you guys would do that because it's it's really tough every day dropping my son off school knowing that somebody may hit me, someone may zoom past and and I

129know I'm not the only one that feels that way, but thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Yeah, I probably signed in the wrong. Okay. Is it all right to speak from here or if you if that's more comfortable for you, sir? I mean, I'm pretty loud. Um, my name is uh George. I um I'm from CL the front roads got gain section. Um I just want to make a few statements. No questions. Our veterans of fire and war district 7 commander for the whole district which is all of Camden County. Our local BFW and uh from the national level down to the local. We do what is called the Patriots pin and a voice of democracy and that's for school kids middle school up until the senior high school and it's an

130essay writing contest. For the past two years I'm giving some accolades here to our district. This year alone, we only we had 39 participants for the Patriots pin, which are middle school kids. Out of all the national, we had one student that was ranked number three. And what we do is we pick a topic, you know, some sort of some sort of national defense, military topic on what they this year was uh their their view on democracy. So I just want to give back to that student. Uh we did a presentation. We went around to the whole school, all school districts and we gave out on a local level. We gave out gift certificates and letters of appreciation for all of them that participated and it was wellreceived. And I just want to give the

131district, you know, uh, an add. And also we have a program uh, national program for school teachers. Um, we give u like a like a school teacher. We didn't we didn't do it this year, but I'm going to personally make sure I implement it next year to give accolades to uh we're going to go around and find a school to the districts and find what what school teachers uh can step you know has stepped up and in your view is worthy of a of an award. So that's just something that's going to be coming up and I'm going to implement this year. Thank you for next year. Thank you. Thank you Mr. All right. Thanks for allowing me to speak. I'll sign yours. I usually end up signing the wrong stuff. The paper you signed,

132Mr. Festival, you signed your house over to Okay. That's why I put the wrong um You said you put the wrong address down, too. Right. Can I have a motion to adjourn public comments? Peterson move for approval to adjourn public comment. Second. Uh, all in favor? I. Moving on to executive session. Mr. Thomas. Okay. Mr. Thomas. Yeah. I just want to make a comment. Uh, Miss P, I just want to say nobody commented, but I just want to say we hear you. I appreciate you coming up here voiceing your concerns. Uh, applaud you on that. Um and also um I keep hearing that you know the collaboration but it's so important that we reach out to the township. I know they have an educational committee or something. Are we meeting with them? Can we can

133we can we give extra effort to make sure that that we can have a meeting with them to start talking about what the future's going to look like and how we can work together because that's the only way we'll succeed with our concerns of our stakeholders. So, I'm just asking for something to come back if if it's next week or two, we just say we tried and they didn't want to do it or we're still going to try so we can get a collaboration with the township to work on some of these stakeholders concerns. Um, may may I uh respond? I I need to say something. [Music] Um, Mrs. Bohill comes to the board meetings and she has the right to speak on her on her behalf as well as a child. Um, coincidentally, I

134had a conversation with Miss Poill today. Um, I've tried to work with Mrs. Po. I think maybe in the past week or two, we've had at least two conversations. I've been trying to coordinate with Mrs. Poill and the building principal at school six. Um, so I don't want my silence to be conceived as not addressing needs. Um, we are still going to continue to work with Miss Poil as I stated to her today. Uh, I understand her concern. Um, I spoke with the building principal on two occasions. Once before I spoke with Miss Po after I spoke with Mrs. Poill and uh, there is a difference in interpretation as to what took place in that meeting. But since we don't go into detail in public meetings, yeah, then I just wanted you to know that

135I have communicated with Miss Boill and I will continue to communicate with Miss Po on addressing her concerns. So, I just wanted to make sure you know that uh it's not um something that's not being addressed or being ignored. Well, it's very important, Dr. boutique because I know and this is always very frustrating for the board. Um that we want to engage and and understand and get some details of what's happening, but that's not something that we're permitted to do in a public meeting when it comes to students and their privacy rights or personnel of the district and their privacy rights. So the reason we don't typically respond on those questions is because we are not permitted to by law. But I would again say what I've echoed on many occasions and we should simply

136anybody who has those concerns work through uh the building principle and the chain of command up to the through and including the superintendent to get their matters heard in a in a fair manner. Perhaps not everyone. It results in the outcome that's expected, but that's the process that's in place and this board as a group is unable to have a dialogue on these types of issues. The law does not permit it. I just wanted to say that yes, we did have conversation and Sorry, did she get called up again? No, I I walked back up because you were speaking about the band. The public portion has clo has closed. If if we want to open it up again, we can't. We have we have we No, it's closed. It's closed, right? So, if you want

137to open it up again, you can open it up. We have to follow the procedure. You want to open it up again, you can open it up again. I don't think we need to open it up again because there otherwise we take the risk of starting a back and forth and I don't want to I don't want to do that because we take the chance of violating your child's rights and that's something we don't need to do here at public. Okay, I understand. And that's that's my major my main concern is your child's rights. Um, any other comments from the board before we move on to executive session? Um, moving on to executive session. Thank you, uh, Mr. President. Uh, in accordance with the requirements of the Open Public Meetings Act, we'll be adjourning into

138executive session on May 14, 2025 at 900 PM. Of the nine exceptions under the law that permit us to adjourn into executive session, we would be utilizing number eight matters involving employment and appointment, terms and conditions of employment. Um, with regard to supervisory personnel, uh, all appropriate individuals have been riceed and I would estimate that we would be in executive session somewhere between 45 minutes to 1 hour. Thanks for using WebEx. Visit our website at ww. Can I have a motion to move into executive session? Peterson move for approval to go into executive session. Second. All right. Um, roll call, please. Explain that. Miss Dre, yes. Miss Claude, yes. Miss Martin, yes. Mr. McManis, yes. Miss Peterson, yes. Mr. Thomas, yes. And Mr. Shaw, yes. The motion has carried.