Budget Workshop 3

001to the of the United States of America and to the stands Nation indivisible liy and Justice with that I would like to turn the microphone over to Mr Manuel who's going to present budget Workshop number three thank you thank you sir uh switch hands here real quick for those of you that were at the last meeting at Ratner seen their theme was the greatest showman and this was one of the uh slides that was there during the presentation one of my favorite movies so I thought I'd Che uh tonight's budget Workshop is going to consist of general education occupational education Library technology guidance Athletics clubs transportation and employee benefits and I'll forewarn you it's going to be long um just looking at the calendar we're at March 6th I just explained what we're going to

002be talking about next week uh will be a full budget review of revenues and expenditures and the 20th will be the adoption the tax levy threshold I'll go through some of these slides that are repetitive pretty quickly uh nothing's changed on this from the last presentation at the next presentation I'll show you the specific uh calculation but our tax cap is uh 2.94% and we will be uh pretty much um pretty close to that uh looking at the projects these are capital projects that are planned for this coming summer um again repeat this building is having the electrical panels um that were destroyed in the flood a year and a half ago permanently uh replaced this building for the most part uh will be off limits for the entire pretty much the entirety of the

003summer um I believe Ruth is sending out information on the uh Summer music program which would be held at Rattler Seaman as will uh any special ed programs that we have during the summer will also be at rner Sean um any regions program in August I believe we're going to do uh in Jackson I spoke with uh with Joe about that board meetings board meetings in the summer board meetings will definitely not be here uh so we'll have to figure that out all right um renovation of Jackson Auditorium that's a a big project that's the last um existing Auditorium that hasn't been renovated so we're looking to do that this summer continuing with some districtwide bathroom Renovations uh window Replacements at Kagen High School the Middle School um one of those is the front lobby

004right over here so the doors were replaced um and we're could to replace the the storefront windows uh surrounding it so that'll take place this summer as well as long uh along with some exterior doors this is uh the third line there is the most important is about uh 6.4 million not including uh interest during this year um in the capital reserve 5 uh that'll come into play later on in this part of the presentation I'll go through this quickly again nothing changed from uh the last couple of presentations uh looking at canac uh continuing uh the window replacements as well as refurbishing the gym floor that floor uh cannot be sanded down again it will need to be replaced and and we're looking to do that uh this summer I'm sorry not this summer

005we're looking to get approval for that so we can do it next summer uh along with some uh reconstruction of the chain looking at Jackson again um we're looking at primarily some exterior work uh for the chimney and some masonry uh looking at Ratner shean uh looking at also some masonry and um some chiminy work again nothing significant looking at Williams I discussed the structural issue that we uh had there um surrounding the auditorium and the gymnasium that work will actually take place uh this summer and looking at the high school middle school again we're continuing with the window replacement this will be phase three as well as some uh sections of the roof um at this build at right above us so looking at total um the yellow highlighted is what we'd be um

006looking for as far as a proposition uh a total uh cost of 7.3 million and I'll explain the funding right here 1,275 is part of the general fund budget already and 6.1 will be the proposition which will'll be using out of the capital reserve I mentioned earlier there's about 6.4 not including interest in there so that'll be covered uh through that great Slide by the way great uh this is the wording that would appear on the ballot for proposition two similar to the ballots in previous years obviously changing for the specific projects that we're looking to do this summer uh I'm sorry projects we're looking to get approval on to do next summer all right so now we're g to go any questions on Capital before we continue okay great so um we use bosies

007as our demographer for enrollment um the numbers you see in the actual every year is based on the October actuals that's actually required by the state that's the formal enrollment for the dist for any District um for the year obviously we're higher than that right now we're I think we're close to about 3,300 um and we're looking October to projected is is very similar um and again we usually start the year at a certain point we usually increase as the year goes on uh so that's what we saw this year uh I would like to point out uh about 10 years ago our enrollment was 29 and change so we did increase pretty substantially over the uh over the last 10 years as far as enrollment and that was another one of our challenges because

008for enrollment purposes obviously you need more staff there's breakages in classes so so we did see that over that period of time as well uh looking at Staffing so case six and the reason why it's broken out this way is because that's the way the state does it so um the coding for the state is K through six even though our elementary schools are K5 we include uh sixth grade for these purposes as as well and then 7 through 12 is the other coding system for this state as well so 108 and 156 plus two and plus three that is where we are right now so a year ago our actual numbers were 106 and 153 if I remember correctly and um this year we did have some breakages and we did require to have

009additional um teaching positions and it it's difficult to State exactly what we think we're going to have next year because the scheduling is taking place uh as I speak uh but we do build in contingencies into uh the budget every year to handle any increases due to enrollment we don't have another microphone today oh TR questions is it on it is so can you just go over the 108 is what you have now okay the 108 is what you have is what we have now or 108 is what you're budgeting for because you have 10 108 and this is probably one of the areas the only area that I do this this way it's what we have right now and 108 is only classroom teachers not including special ed co- teing not including psychologists obviously

010guidance counselors not including a lot of other areas which so why is that so why is it plus two if that's what we have now yeah it was comparing I was comparing it to last year last year slide had 106 and 153 so this represents the difference this represents a difference from last year correct okay what you say last year last year's budget or this year's actual that's the6 the 108 and the 156 is this year's actual so this year's actual was last year's action the plus two is above last year's action corre yes this one no just this one for everything else yes that's the case this is the Delta from last year's action this is the Delta from last year's actiones What's the total count of forget just like all employees of the

011district What's the total count of teachers or total employees anybody that gets an email from the district how many how many people email um I'm going to do how about paychecks it's approximately 800 that includes part-timer Subs cleaners sub cleaners part-time cleaners Etc cafeteria anyone who gets a check during the year people won't get all their check won't get checks every correct it on a payroll basis it's about 800 biweekly yes biweekly so so basically with enrollment at K through6 down a little high school up a little we're just leaving FTE at the high school and school where they are today I I think K six um when we look at the numbers it it is kind of flat to this year we weren't seeing that many uh breaks in that area again secondary is

012difficult depends on um who takes what courses especially at the high school level no I'm talking about enrollment I understand the way the courses work now so how do you go about it sounds like you're not really going down very deep in terms of modeling that because as you know there are some in the high school say there are some classes that are maxed out and there are some classes that have 12 kids uh 12 students I should say in it so we're not going down to that we're just sort of saying we're expecting course distribution to remain some pretty constant between where it is this year as far as requirement for FTE yes um yes but I do build in contingencies and that question really can't be answered until schedules are done and we

013know what classes are running and up okay the would you we get two pages forward then we get to the go okay this page that page okay um so this page is the dollars associated with that um going from 42.4 to about 43.6 overall um obviously salary is the biggest uh part of this area from instructional to AIDS to clerical Etc OB and there's textbooks in this particular area as well and on the future slides uh which I'll show you is equipment supplies Etc so but Sam did you have a question yeah um the KY through six line is increasing by a little bit more than 1% the secondary is increasing by about 5% what's the major driving factors between the difference in increase year-over-year uh year year when I looked at the uh K

014six uh looking at the prior Year's actuals and looking at where we are now um it it made sense to keep that um not flat but a slight increase of that 1% uh looking at the secondary level we again we did have uh more positions this year compared to uh last year and again I building contingencies but we have thought we have two more positions at at the elementary school and six more positions three more at the high school so we actually had the same type of growth but I build a lot more contingencies into the secondary got it okay so when I look at why so at the at the end of the year the SE the um the K through six will be tighter than the 7 through 12 guys it's conent basically

015the answer is contingent the reason it's it's so much larger and that would be why the increase year-over-year in dollars um is 44% higher for Secondary School versus only 35% for the elementary school because again just year over year just I'm not understanding 40% if you look at 156 is 44% more teachers than the 108 that you have in the elementary school I got when you look at the 23 versus the 17 that's going up about 44 that's going up um the difference is it's all just basically you're not digging into it to there's no reason okay thank you I have a question can you explain um professional 403b we we had budgets and then now we don't yeah well we never have budgets um in that so that is the sick day buyout for

016teachers and that literally swings dramatically depending on the number of retirees and you can see it here uh 2122 we didn't have a lot of retirees 22 23 we had a few more but not a lot last year um it doubled so we had a pretty significant amount and that's the payout um for the retire sick Bank when they retire I think this year I don't think we're at quite the level we had last year but um it'll be pretty I don't know if it'll be in the midal I think it'll be pretty close to a million and in June we usually do a resolution um in order to take the money out of the reserve so we have Reserve monies for those that's why we don't put an actual budget dollar amount in there

017okay and can you just explain as far as um textbooks yeah um I guess we're we're we're hovering at that 150 yeah so what is this why and you know why that number so I knew that this year and next year and the year after were pretty significant years as far as uh math uh Social Studies classes as far as um the sixe textbook has come due and we have to re up for an additional five years six years or a new Adoption depending and we have to get it by New York we have to get have these because I know that most of these classes are online they're all well you you're paying for it online so it's still so it's yeah they they give they may give you they may give you a

018hard copy for the class but um you're paying for the subscript subscription so so this line does include all the electronic subscriptions for all the textbooks in all of our classes this is for textbooks regular online subscriptions are a little different well like like a science Tex this is textbook subscript digital textbook that's a better way of saying thank you it's digital digital textbooks and some so the when you say subscriptions I think you mean more of like software a lot of that goes through bosies you'll see that a little L yeah I just bet this is textbooks whether they're hard copies or digital yes this is what it yeah sure so you said bothies can you explain that line item special oh the poy services at the bottom yeah um that is primarily for

019I I'm this is I have a feeling it's special education it's not special ed materials let me think about it I'll get back to that the reason this question is going to come up a lot tonight but Bose Services special right it's 304 .1 344 so let me explain that it just clicked in my head so um let me explain first so the all of our district copy machines come out of that code and we get them through Bose all of the um Canon copiers so they'll be around the entire District copy machines throughout the buildings the 1.1 million was a gby change in that we had to because it's considered a lease so you we have the Cannons for four years for example we had to show the entire expense of the lease upfront

020in uh 2223 just for the uh cop years and at the same time we had to show the revenue for that particular year that was an accounting change from the governmental Accounting Standards Board okay and and that's being leased so so so those are being leased the the rest of the numbers to 304 344 I budget 490 that's the typical annual amount the 1.1 was not an accounting change on our part but governmental account but assuming for like let's say so I still don't understand what specifically they are but let's say for next year's budget it says 490 right um and assuming this year's spend is 490 and it was 344 so it went up by 150 Grand what what is the I have contingency in there there's nothing what is the I guess my

021question is what is the specific breakdown of what that is like how many is it if it's equipment is it on the balance sheet as equipment is it Dee yeah so so that's where's the correlation to that the I'll I'll check for there's other small things in there but for the most part it's the districtwide copy we have uh lots lots of we have a big copier I'm sorry why they under this under Staffing and textbooks it's the 2110 490 it's Bose that's the state code for it we have the other Bose sections later on the special yeah you have it in all different areas but that's considered General instruction is that's what we're using it for for most part my question is and and I want to ask it again just to not waste

022your time but um is there a way to get actual itemized breakdown of what equates to all this Bose spend of course yeah there's a Bose contract yeah we do um the board approves it every year so in August they'll in August they'll do um we sign off on the final contract for the prior year and then for the contract for the current year and you'll see a little later when we talk about technology that's a big number too in 2630 um we purch and Patrick will go through this uh later but a lot of our equipment for technology will purchased through bosis this way we get additional Aid coming back and if you look at the schedule to the I believe it's August meeting you should see the contract with yeah where is the

023contract sorry if you go to the August meeting um you'll see it there's um there's two one is for the prior year and one is for the current year and the difference um and maybe saw it in the aid calculations as well it looks like our eight is going down next year for bosies it doesn't include the technology purchases because we do that towards the end of the year and they don't have that number yet so they're just basing it on and I asked them I said why can't we put we know we're going to what we're going to buy why can't we put that in the initial contract but they don't allow it look like a draft contract pretty much it'll change throughout the year uh instructional equipment um it's basically flat year over-ear

024I dro the uh districtwide uh a little bit from 90 to 70 uh the 990,000 this year is actually being used to bring additional casework for the physics Leb Kim yes yes oh so this is even though the picture is sports it's not Sports it's really instructional Oh I [Music] thought I usually do try to put the pictures with the side good catch uh contractual services this is the you'll see it on the next slide asem graduation service contracts um meetings and conferences Etc um and these are the dollars associated with it which uh which dropped a little bit year over year instructional supplies again not Athletics but it was a nice picture so I put it up here um these are the general supplies for all the buildings we Services I was looking now

025yes no we didn't skip it one quick question we have a contract yes not in here it's in buildings and ground they come uh quot four times a year these are the instructional supplies uh moving on to Career Education this is uh this all classrooms so classroom supplies what what supplies we give students that's what I'm trying to understand I can see the supplies give teachers well what we give students yes it's provided to the teachers for their classroom to for the students use for what the students what other than pieces of paper what are we giving the students to use supplies fo technology scissors there's a lot of consumables that definitely go with science in terms of purchasing so like know those like so a lot of those things like each year we have

026to dep no it's all the department it's District physical education food for the cooking for our family consumer sence thank you and when you see the high school I actually break it down further where will get an allotment social studies will get an allotment World languages will get an allotment Etc uh Career Education these are students that attend uh Bose's programs uh like the Long Island School for the Arts um cosm Power etc those types of bogram how manyal so so on on the expense what bosis does which I think is great they didn't used to do this it's based on a threeyear smoothing three your average of enrollment this way in any particular year you're not spiking um and hitting your budget too hard so I think it's about eight students nine 10 something

027like that that's fulltime for those students it depends on the program some of them are full-time a lot of them are uh half days so they'll either be here six or seven fulltime equivalents I'd have to check I but it's it's it's it's not a huge amount we using transports back and for uh library media this is uh exactly what it says it's for our libraries um again salaries and non-instructional salaries associated with that and some supplies books uh subscriptions this is our librar right not the our libr got guidance um again not a significant uh change in this area we actually uh dropped a little bit with the uh non-instructional salaries um it it was um there was a position that was um partially Consolidated we recoded a little bit and it's not all

028hitting guidance at this point anymore all right technology Dr fogy you are up yes it is fanatico uh every Christmas or every holiday season Texa and I go out to a lunch we always try to take our picture at that lunch they are a wonderful group you can see Joe K back there who's always running our board meetings Josh is over in the auditorium helping out with that today so uh very always a pleasure to spend some time with these folks and always a pleasure to spend a few minutes with you guys walking me through what we're hoping to accomplish next year and what we think we've accomplished this year so I always start with a quick review of what changed over the last 12 months uh hardware and software wise I think the biggest

029change is probably artificial intelligence which continues to be deployed in our district and across really the country at this point across the Globe last year we finished our first phase of our Chromebook refresh cycle we're working through the second phase now uh we aim to replace roughly 700 units annually um we replace about 200 to 250 besttop PCS annually as well we uh our Chromebook numbers are changing because their use is expanded throughout the district but for the most part things are pretty consistent there oh yeah yeah stop me when just according to the slides later on we have 3200 Chromebooks we have 3200 students well when you said this is changing I don't understand what's changing exactly because I thought we always had it where we had one device for each student we try

030to have one device for each student but many of our high school students don't take our Chromebooks so what we want to make sure so a couple things are changing one we're obsa everything that's five we always obsolete everything that's 5 years or older but that's number one anything old is being replaced we try to do that annually that's what the cycle is but we bought the vast majorities back in not the vast majority we bought the first wave back in 2020 so they're all coming due at the end of this year we also have some stragglers that we want to get rid of devices that are six years old not any that are deployed or assigned to an individual student but we also have Chromebooks on carts in our elementary schools some of those

031have aged out and it's time to replace those the reason we do that is because our kindergarteners are still using iPads and we want to make sure that they have the option to use the the other devices we've had some teachers who asked that they could have that so we thought it was a pretty easy thing to do we want to replace a lot of those too so that's primarily a change that we're going to see but if we bought most of these for 2020 we didn't buy no I misspoke we bought a wave of them but not the most so just to Pig back on that obviously Co came and we upped our SP we upped our spending significantly in this area and we try to do it in a way where five six

032seven years later we're not going to have all of a sudden a million dollar increase in order to buy a whole bunch at the same time so we tried to spread it out as best we could um where it stays relatively stable over that period but yet after Co that that's why we did the big spend at that point and last year we were able to avoid what we we got years ago um every District was given a big pile of money to spend on technology smart Bond investment I don't know if any of you guys remember that it was a lot of money to districts to spend on Tech well our pile was not that big no our pile was relatively small be clear but what I did when I started here was I

033stashed that away once Co had happened I said you know what this looks like something that's going to affect us pretty significantly down the road so we stashed away the money from the smart schools investment plan and used that for the first wave of the Chromebook refresh last year so we were able to buy a whole bunch of devices without actually doing anything to our budget but spending money that was already allocated To Us by the state so just what is the point of the last part there n changing given the expanded use well because we're making now we're it's going to be mandatory it's already mandatory that the students use our devices but we're going to see as every middle school or students get our device but as every Middle School student starts to

034use them you'll see breakage rates go up so that's going to require us to buy some more hot swaps like units that we just keep in a closet somewhere and have ready to go That's essential because breakage rates are high on any device you give students they were at like 12% back in the iPad days and they're even a little higher now so we have to make sure when more people are using them that we have more sitting in boxes or on a cart ready to roll that's an important thing on the on the broken Chrome books I know we my house how does the insurance that the District offers offset the cost to us for purchasing new ones the insurance does the insurance covers the cost of the repair when a student breaks a

035device and they have the insurance we don't pay anything for that repair it's all happening outside of us I mean we do pay actually that's not true we pay the repair company up front every year for X number and they are very generous in how they handle those numbers so we have a pretty good relationship with them the repairs are more likely to keep us from having to replace a unit but Chromebooks are plastic you know they're constructed like a to right so at the end of the day these things are going to have significant breakage rates even things that are made well like an iPad is going to have a pretty significant breakage rate um and I guess you equip with like made well for a child maybe an iPad's not made well for

036a child to use but it's a welld designed device so breakage rates are kind of a reality that we face and students the more we they use our devices the more they're going to churn through them we are triing right now some cases the feedback has been mixed by the students and I understand why when you know adds considerable heft to the device so my son came home my son's 11 he came home with a Chromebook um that was cased up and his backpack felt like it weighed 300 lb so we looked for the thinnest cases but unfortunately reality is the things that you snap on a Chromebook they're going to weigh a little bit and they're not that great so we're triing it do I think we're going to go forward with it if

037the teachers feel really strong about of course but if they don't then probably not realistically what's the cost for Chromebook we're going to get to a slide with all the costs for everything and your your the life cycle is four years five years five years M so if you're doing every if you're doing 650 to 750 okay what's the what percentage of the parents take the insurance on their devices that's a great qu I don't know all fans Sam it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 to 40% it's not a tremendous amount but it's it's better than it was two years ago and the ones who don't take it their child breaks the Chromebook we're sending them a bill yes typically depending on the nature of the damage if it's a key or something that's

038popped off we replace it if it's something significant that requires us to spend money to repair it we will generally contact the parent let them know and and obviously Financial circumstances are consideration and we have no issue Financial circumstances notwithstanding we have no issue collecting on those charges question yes um as far as um the Chromebooks they follow the student so like do does the student keep that first grade now this is not Universal because there are times when a student keeps the device so we generally ask the students to bring them to us to swap them and on the first day we'll typically going around and try to get those done yes in a pure and perfect world your first grader fifth grader and nth grader will have a new device first Fifth and

039nth okay and so what if that student has a Chromebook but their screen is broken then they go to whoever the aid is in their building and the aid gives them a new device to get through the rest of the day with and we sub so just swap it and then eventually that kid is going to get a build depend if they're not insured yes depending on the nature of the action depending on their financial stat so we're not requiring the kids to hand them in in the summer no we've had a lot of there's a few reasons for that one of them is when we proposed it there was some push back from parents who wanted their students to have a device to use which I totally understood the other thing is from a

040logistical standpoint where are we putting them all it's a lot of stuff to find a home for like find space for and plantwise that's probably and realistically you're not going to get a high you're going to get a pretty significant percentage of students who just don't do it so it's easier for you to just do it at the beginning of the year when you know they're here and you know they have their device and I'm guessing we lock them up somewhere whatever devices we have you beta okay moving along to security um this is typically the stuff people care the least about I'll try to keep it tight uh security is just very important to us continually we are sunsetting local storage pools file shares and all that good stuff we are obligated to do

041this um sometimes people ask well why are you doing that it's not because uh it feels good we have to do a lot of these things in order to maintain our insurance we we have cyber security Insurance one of the recommendations that has been made to us is to uh deprecate or get rid of active directory which is how we all have our user accounts in the district so saying get rid of active directory is a very significant undertaking for us we're in the middle of doing that now help desk and asset management are integrated edlaw 2D continues to be a big deal I think everybody in the district who helps with that it is a huge undertaking to get every piece of software approved and it's really team effort we uh we offered those

042one-on-one training sessions that i' love to talk about um Leanne is not here lean is such a wonderful person and everyone loves working with her so much she's done 124 sessions it's probably more than that at this point uh we're using our model schools days for AI Focus PD among many other things across this District we've added 200 Chromebooks not really added you know I should now that Sam pointed out it's not adding we' swapped out a bunch uh to make sure we have our devices ready for testing as you guys know or maybe you don't a lot of our testing is being shifted to digital not because of a Jericho choice but this is the direction that the state is going and we're uh launching probably now in April pajama PD nights where um

043we're working with vendors like AI companies and other folks and we're just going to sit there in our pajamas drink hot cocoa and walk people through how to use brisk and if no one comes I'll just drink hot cocoa in my pajamas by myself that's a lovely Tuesday night quick Hardware overview we'll get into the hard numbers here current Fleet around 3,200 Chromebooks 864 desktop PCS you can read the slide but that's our full Freight right now Dell uh the current cost of a Dell desktop is $948 we are doing and I thank Victor for this because he's just amazing at help at helping us through things like this we have to do a lot of Rush purchasing right now because finances and things in the world are changing pretty rapidly and the cost of

044our computers we're getting constant up updates from our partners saying you better think about this now because there's changes coming so there's a lot of uh there there's a lot of pricing that's in flux thanks to Victor allowing us to do it we were able to order a whole bunch of this stuff now so we haven't paid an extra penny for anything and we're going to continue to order we don't typically love to order new computers for July or you know September in February you would typically like to wait until March or April because that may you know if anything new comes out if there's a refresh you hear about a problem you have a little bit of time to react but it is what it is we want to make sure we're not sitting

045here we also expect there to be a huge rush of orders as soon as a dip in the pricing hits and that's probably going to happen at some point during the summer which means we really could be in bad shape Patrick is referring to is potential paros yes oh sorry I should have clarified these numbers all reflect State contract pricing B contract pricing well yeah the every we buy virtually all of our Hardware directly for Bose and keep in mind that Bose charges fees on top of that so when you see all my budget the ual cost of these things it'll be 18% or so high 18% on top of what we already pay bosies no um what do you mean on what on top of what we already well I mean we to be

046a they added administration fee on top of all purchases but the following year so he said 18% the following year will get anywhere from 50 to 60% back in state a okay that's why you'll see in my budget the biggest jump your over year is always moving stuff to bosies when I started here six years ago my number one priority was moving as much to purchasing Ries because Aid and also because things that we purchase through bosis as far as software are edlaw 2D compliant automatically and this is what I mentioned earlier when you looked at the state aid runs it shows us as um our Bose's Aid um reducing by a couple hundred, because they don't know that we're purchasing this at this point in the year uh because it's not in the original

047contract um so I'm confident that our Aid will be pretty flat to what we're getting this year even though it doesn't reflect that on the uh and regular retail is never better than than bosies I know I know in some instances you know sometimes purchasing from State contract is not adves this this is a state contract you're purchasing it through b in order for us to get Aid back to okay so there it has to be but is the is the cost reflective of that Aid like if you're showing like no that's the gross cost so what's the do we have net numbers of like if you're spending if let's just use the Chromebook example 750 whatever three three 440 or whatever it is let's say 330 Grand you're saying 50% of that's coming back

048in 80 yes so it's not really 330 it's half that I'm sorry the did the 330 include the 18% so let's let me give you an example so say something back end no say something is 100,000 yeah right poli's Administration Fe is 18% that's 118,000 yep we would then get about 50% back on that number % but on the the gross 40% lower than list sure but on the budget it's showing the full price it's showing the gross price because the a is revenue the expenditure is the expenditure okay and it's coming back in the following year correct it doesn't flow back into my code either no it does not yeah so it's not like it's it doesn't right well I mean I guess the whole District gets I don't want to think of that

049way but I know what you mean but you're your expenses and and I'm sorry so I get that's Revenue coming but your expenses are inflated because you're not recognizing the the credit memos or whatever is coming back towards that right item purchase I understand what you're saying but for school district accounting it's not inflated because we have to show the expend totally get it I'm not questioning the county I'm the last person that wants to do that I'm asking more from like a visual perspective is there a logical breakdown of what the cost per user equipment is net after all said and done like I I understand it might be extra work but just from a visual perspective seeing that it's not really a million it's half a million is a different of of course

050but again the a comes the following year it's a little it it if you do it in one year it's it's not exact we could assume we're getting 50% the following year because traditionally I mean we've been as low as 40 and as high as 60 uh depending on how the wealth ratios work out how the formulas work out that that that percentage can change year to year okay these numbers do not include the 18% is that correct these numbers include the 18% include the 18% no these numbers are the are the freight cost of a device without the B Tru this is this is just what a device costs okay but this is all the technology Hardware that we have in the distri yes okay so if you trust me and I tell you

051that if I run those numbers off that sheet um using the Dell laptop price for the Lenovo price you have about $2.9 Million worth of Hardware that's seems reasonable if I add you mean as far as assets not that we're purchasing this year yes yes that that we own 2.9 Million if I put on the 20% premium we're at three and a half million I take off the 40% because we're going to save 40% of what it is we're spending somewhere around5 to $600,000 a year for technology Hardware not counting the printers because I don't know what a printer cost is does that sound realistic for what you were expecting I mean it's I've never done the math right factor in the 18% then remove the 40% but it feels right uh I'm not really

052what what's the question exactly the question is it am I looking at that's how much we're spending am I looking at it the right way I'm not talking about is that the right way to look at those are all the computers we need in what I think the problem here is you guys are thinking of this is an integrated shot and it's not so my budget is my budget this is what I spend at the end of the year Victor doesn't come to me and say Here's the 40% you earn by buying those Chromebooks it doesn't work that way that's my budget this is what I spend whatever the district gets back is what the district gets back I have nothing to do with it I don't know anything about it I only factor in

053the cost of clarification you'll see it shows up a state aid on the revenue side of the budget right I don't know I don't have much insight into how that works I understand what I'm trying to understand is that as you know when we were talking about devices in the district and computing power and all these other things in terms of trying to wrap my head around what it is we spend and if some were to say to us that yes to get the next level computing power for all of our kids whether it's in middle school or high school we would have to spend 20% more it's four time we I did the math it's about four times our current spend so if you wanted to take a Chromebook and replace that with a

054good MacBook laptop you'd probably want it to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $5 to $600 you could get cheaper you can do a lot of things to bring that price down but ultimately a laptop that you you can do much cheaper for the Windows machine you know the Dell XPS which they're not even continuing is like less than 12200 so you could do cheaper for Windows machines but at the end of the day it's going to be an increase of three to four times per unit what you spend now you're saying there's nothing between $400 $1600 in the market well no the one I just said that's ,100 is between those two numbers so we have stuff that's between it but they're do they work as well do they do everything you want them

055to do probably Windows machines sure but there's management issues with Windows laptops that are pretty extraordinary and let's say we get the cheapest Windows laptop at 400 or $850 you're double your Chrome spend your device spend already with or without software that's without the well that's not true because we pay for A5 licensing so we get a bunch of the software already with what we pay for but there'd be a lot more to pay for because you had mentioned previously when we talked about you potentially transition to well now we got to manage them so you have the management plus mention the software included with the Chromebook I guess the the Google Suite m versus you'll go with Microsoft or something all those yeah and we use a lot of Microsoft stuff at the high

056school level so it's not that we're not using it we do but the Google The Google software suite comes rolled in with it we pay a little bit now for it um but it's nothing close to what it would be as far as increasing a5s for districtwide those are expensive licenses but there's not like a Chromebook that's 30% better there really isn't no I mean so basically you do these Chromebooks or you go to laptops yes 100% yeah I mean you could spend $50 more on a Chromebook but if you look at the specs on a Chromebook they're kind of what they are they're not going to do anything locally they're not processing much locally so you could spend a ton of money they make niiz Chromebooks I just don't know why you would do

057that I think you would want to go with a with a like a big boy laptop before you did that or stick with a cost- effective solution that comes with the management and the software kind of baked in what do they do with private schools high private question I worked at a high private school for many years and I ran their Tech program we did iPads that was quite a long time ago you now a lot of them are doing iPads still a lot of them what you'll find is that in a lot of the more Boutique environments an iPad is still very popular um I have theories as to why that is but I would rather not share those maybe offline we could talk about that um but there's reasons that I think iPads

058are more in use in certain areas than in others um but you also see a lot of the priv especially private high schools it's just whatever you bring you know they'll assign you a device or have a device but students can also choose their own thank you can I sorry just my question is I'm surprised to find to see that the chomebook and iPad are pretty much same price yeah Apple's really lowered the price of the education level iPad over like six seven years to get it in line with the Chromebook but their market share has been in freef Fall for as far as education for many years Apple's iPad market share is minuscule at this point compared to the Chromebook Chromebook one you know the education battles so you're suggesting that if if we

059were to step up and and I don't want to put words in Mr pran's mouth but just to understand if we go from a chrome like for high school if you go from a Chromebook to a MacBook Air yeah that's like 8900 bucks I think retail a MacBook Air I I wouldn't get you I I think there're still base config with 128 which I guess where sorry where I was just going with it is is there are levels of Apple that are far superior to Chromebook that are still lower than the 1500 price point they're all going to get you at about $1 00 when you put 256 gigs of storage in which you have to do and you make sure the chip is reasonable it's going to be about 11,00 at the cheapest but

060then there's a and I and I'm sorry then there's a 40% potential backend credit on that yes if if you purchase it through posies which can be tricky with apple but yes it's trick okay but there is so so the net cost of that is is 650 bucks every no matter what we talk about we get money back from both I believe you had mentioned correct me I'm wrong manage the apple is much more expensive it's much more complicated you have to buy a separate MDM um we're digging into the stuff I like now okay so if you're going to manage Chrome if you're going to manage Chromebooks it's a Google admin console right built-in beautiful simple wonderful if you're going to manage Windows machines there's free product that's called InTune it's not good it

061does not work well we do not want to use InTune so we'd have to pay for an MDM right so an MDM is mobile device management let's call that conservatively with this addition of devices somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 to 30 grand probably closer to 20 um now we've deployed these devices but they don't take updates automatically you can't wake them on land which is how we update all of our machines we wake on land so your machine's sitting in your office in the middle of the night boom we hit it with an update it wakes up we update it goes back to sleep I can't do that with your laptop so now we are exposing our students to a potential major security issue because we can't patch the OS and that is where

062I get freaked out about doing that sort of thing so what what what does Apple offer could you do that dur perod ask do you know the percentage of kids will actually bring that thing in if I ask them to Sam it's not great what you with the current devices though because you have mac you have Apple products so how are you doing we collect well we we don't have any Apple products out to the students um we we have the Apple products in labs and we update them manually but we can actually we could push silent updates it's not that we have a Mac Mini caching server we'll knock stuff out to them it's not that that's the problem it's that if you give someone a laptop we can't ever be sure when we

063can send that update so we can push it and they can just X out of it and ignore it and if you do that long enough you're going to end up with an unpatched OS and now we're you know potentially exposing people to security liabilities I'm sure everyone's excited about how long I'm taking I'm going to keep talk it's thank you um this is I wish this is a list of software Services um I we I partner with our CA the ca really I shouldn't say partner but CA pick out this great software we deploy in the classrooms uh we do our best to make it work as smoothly as we possibly can some of this stuff is not you know some of this stuff is my stuff too um so for instance uh Ed

064law 2D compliance Audits and things of that nature those are mine um but I find that every year this is one of the best parts of my job is is pulling together the budgets from the ca it's super easy they do a great job and this stuff all comes out L Patrick do we um analyze if programs are not being used Yeah we actually have something we have an analytics dashboard called class link analytics that we can pop into the only drawback to that is it's only really recording class Link login so the data is really noisy meaning that if students are accessing the software outside of class link uh the data is a little messy however guess what they're going to charge us to fix that uh and now class link analytics is going

065to collect all logins to all programs starting I think this summer so we're going to charge us extra for that and we'll pay it what are you what are you using no are you managing to no before you bet you so you're handling all the cyber security training you got okay and we I guess like Weebly and WordPress and well yeah so we webly in WordPress I assume the website for the high school or for the district is WordPress but what's webly for I don't those are not me uh wee is not used anymore because it's not to comp oh yeah we had to get rid of we never paid for wee and then WordPress is what we use for the JF some of these are paid and some of these are unpaid yeah we'll

066get to the only one that was unpaid was Weebly which is still on there in my budget for like $4 uh but the rest of them are I'll show you what's unpaid on the next okay do we have anything where there's advertising showing up on software that we're giving students nothing that we pay for that I am aware of no if anything's being used in a classroom I don't know about it's possible but we certainly wouldn't so you say anything we pay for there's no advertising but teachers or fact might be using some definitely not saying that I don't know but I don't I not we get an alert in um in Windows that tells us when someone's trying to log into something something that they shouldn't and it tells us we don't get very

067many of those alerts and typically that'll tell us even if a teacher is trying to log into something that requires some sort of it's an incredible thing in Microsoft but I'm talking about advertising like that there's push ad like there a program like you log into something and there's a pro and there's an advertising show well let's talk about the biggest one that that was doing that YouTube and that's why they're currently being banned by New York State uh because they weren't allowing people to opt into that and of course their data collection practices and everything else but as far as any we nothing that we pay forward push ads to students that we just wouldn't allow it or so if there's ads to students it's just faculties using a free version of something if

068there ads for students and you're aware of it I would ask you to let me know and I can ask about it but I would be surprised if that was happening okay all right okay software from bosis like I mentioned before we try to move our purchasing into Bose's because we get Aid back on it and because it ensures edlaw 2D compliance uh there's a few products that we're using at no cost we just entered into a contract with brisk they gave us the year for free entered into a contract for next year because people are really taking to it the rest of this is just pretty standard software that we use in the district this is like the core stuff that runs us the Microsoft Consortium that's our big buy for Microsoft licensing the

069Azure commit is part we're moving everything to the cloud you guys are going to kill me if I go through every line of this okay moving along yeah yeah oh yeah have questions on yeah so Microsoft Consortium you you mentioned A5 so so the entire District every employees on no no no no no no we only we'll give the free licensing to someone who only needs to log in for example once a year we're not going to give that person a full A5 if we know some we that's such a good question we've sort of been forced to move away from a3s um because if you know the licensing structure the A3 is kind of like you know um and it was recommended to us to move away from that I was using those pretty

070liberally for a while because you could use them in positions where you felt like it wasn't security intensive U but I was told that probably wasn't a great idea so my question on Microsoft is do we have a license breakdown of how many licenses at what price per license yeah the A5 Suite or whichever suet what A3 A5 whatever it is because there seems to be and and I know you're going to get to it but A5 has all the endpoint protection def Defender and everything through the suite but I also noticed you have multiple endpoint protections through other systems well we're using crowd strike and Microsoft's products I think I saw Canary also Canary is a little bit different Canary is more to us that someone's poking around it's not really the same as

071like a traditional endpoint protection it triggers us to do some investigating okay so is it possible at some time to have a published count of what the license cost is through Bose's of course okay and then for the commit so tell me this one so it's 78 so you guys are managing a cloud instance here for the district yeah what what is on like without obviously violating I really don't want to say a lot about that I don't see what benefit URS to me by explaining that in any detail how much data I guess is it data your because it just seems expensive for for cloud like I I know cloud services I just I'm just curious like probably going to Bill about 48 to 55 end of year but you always want to build

072out a little cushion to make sure that you don't run a foul of them because if you run a foul of them that's a much bigger problem we don't pay them up front because Microsoft keeps the money so if you pay Microsoft for a commit up front and you get to the end of the year and you haven't used that commit up they make you go through an incredible array of work to get the money back so we just set it aside but we pay them on a monthly basis our monthly run rate right now is around 4,000 what goes up there without being specific at all any server that we feel was once on Prem that could have created you know an attack surface area power school for example so think about all the

073stuff that now actually power school is hosted by them I shouldn't say that power school backup process now is something we're doing in Azure en vision is going to be you know we're we're trying to get I that's what I don't want to be talk I shouldn't say anything okay without without like okay so I won't get annoying on this but I guess we're self hosting a ton assuming a 78k well okay 50 to 78k I mean a 4K run rate I'm not hosting a ton it's a modest hosting rate I mean you know a big company will be running1 $250,000 a month I guess the question is is is that are we stuck with Azure and has have you looked at AWS cost comparisons Yeah we actually we had some we like a a

074lot at the time we were doing this comparison we were noticing a lot of issues sort of like um when we were looking at firewalls foret all of a sudden had like 10 zero days in a row so we really like the Azure product and it's also um Azure is supported by Advanced engineering which is a Bose Service uh and they're very good in Azure they can help us stand a lot of stuff up that otherwise you probably need to bring folks in for so that's one of the reasons to use it is this when you go a few pages further you have computer software Services budgeted at $44,000 is that what's going to be all the is this the software Services you're talking about yeah and the yeah that's anything that's not going to

075be included in the Bose's code should be there okay all right um so moving along technology snapshot what's new we're still very security focused we've talked about that quite a bit parent square is the district's primary communication tool we've also talked about that lot of B I want to specifically shout out Alex white if she's watching because Alex told me about a month ago and said you know really nice if your uh report card just came to your inbox and I said well that would be really nice and she said well why don't you do that and I said okay uh so we did that today Ms HS Wi-Fi so we're using eate funding to replace the wi-fi at the middle school and the high school um we're also adding yes we're adding Wi-Fi no

076no I just wanted to let you know Wi-Fi outside in the circle Wi-Fi in all the spaces that are outside we expect it to cover almost everywhere except for that back area of Jackson which is a no man's land that I will never be able to go when is this happening over the summer what is e e I'm going to actually I have a slide for that uh what else is new tech committee still helping us guide our approach to AI integration refer cycle continues testing continues to shift and I post I put this up about the EV charger only for Alex to tell me like two days ago that one went down it's back up but I heard one one down and was back up computer technology so I'm going to get into the

077e r stuff I think I just talked about this we're adding a bunch of new access points outside um CU I know I heard this as an issue but I also know when I'm pulling away and I'm going somewhere that isn't home and my GPS doesn't kick in for a while I have to get like a certain number of yards away so I just be free what is when you you're upgrading it does this mean there's going to be more bandwidth more speed more everything or more everything well I mean I know upgrading is such like a nebulous almost meaningless word we're putting better and newer access points in we are putting access points in certain locations that haven't had them or that we had them but we had to do some sort of janky

078expansion where it's not running directly back to a switch and there's relays in a ceiling over the course of years networks get almost in intrinsically janking in the way that they're built because you're like hey we don't have anything covering over there so you're just going to pull cable and you're going to use a relay or whatever you can use to get that signal over there but it's not always the best way so then you have to revisit but it's like anything else you know these things pile on top of one another so when you have a chance to really look at your topography and sort of rethink it it it's pretty exciting so we're pretty psyched about doing this work so it is a full read where you're just you're you're about 100% but

079a large percentage of it you're you're putting in let me flip that it's 80% rip and replace but it yeah but 20% of of new uh coverage is is exciting but the vast majority rip and replace but but it's getting ripped out it's not like you're just like you're it's as if you're starting from scrp get rid of the access points get get rid of the switches those will be replaced at the middle school high school level and then we're hoping to expand that same stuff to the elementary and 100% it'll be done before school starts in August uh we will try our best to do that yeah the buildings are going to be closed during the summer while we're trying to do this so like we can't open school without you have Wi-Fi don't

080get Wii you may not have the newest Wi-Fi we're not going to open the school and be like sorry guys uh we know you get to the new Chromebooks but too bad no we don't have exactly I'm so close let me just finish this uh we have redirected erate funds I talked about that refresh Cycles continue we're upgrading our Mac lab which is always qu exciting for me as a Mac guy and uh District Chromebooks will be in use from grades 1 through eight okay so a couple things I want to go quick I promise pick it don't I should slow it down okay so software we've launched something brand new that is extremely exciting to me I want to thank the business office for helping me with this it's called a vendor Management program

081every year we are given like new things that the state would like us to do or cyber security insurance company would like us to do and a vendor Management program is really uh soed to not start to finish understanding of what happens to the data that flows into the district even the data outside of uh our software programs we continue to work with the principal CA central office administrators on new and expanding programs we've added some additional products to our Adobe Creative Cloud Suite expanded the use of the Microsoft Suite in some areas and we're tring new software always AI continues to be a focus I'm going to be adding paid subscriptions for all administrators for beautiful.ai that was pretty much something I think Helen and Kim told me about uh it looks it's really

082cool it's great software so we're going to get everyone a subscription to that in the admin level I'm sorry what is is that for a specific subject no no it's uh it's for presentations it's for slide development but it also it it does a lot of really cool stuff I know that's about the Vagas answer I can give you it does a lot of really cool stuff not super helpful but it it's it it doesn't just do auto text it does visuals really nice though uh we yeah so we've added some subscriptions beginning a relationship with a company called AI for education I just want to flag how I I we work with Incredible people because these products were rolled out very quietly and we almost immediately had 88 teacher users in brisk uh we've

083had 3,000 student conversations in chat for schools the way that I think um our our teachers in particular really kind of taken to using these tools and the conversations they have I get people stopping in just to sort of bounce stff off me and I don't know it's been one of the most exciting times of my professional career um working with this the Advent of AI it feels very much like when we first did the one to one programs many many years ago wa what are those stats at the bottom oh good question exp yeah bris 88 teacher users are using the brisk product which we rolled out pretty recently and we've had th000 teacher conversations and I think it's 3,000 student conversations with the new software but you can read that better than I

084can it's tiny um but we're also seeing you know we have 900 student users in brisk and almost 3,000 student chats almost 20,000 student promps so this is all baby steps we're very early into the process but I feel pretty good about where we are is ston event so oh yeah let me talk about ston ston cyber security is a company run by a guy named Brian busto who I met many moons ago when I was first coming up he was coming up as well Brian is one of the leading pentesters now in on all around he does tremendous work he used to run B&B Consulting if you've ever heard of them they are a company that comes in and assists with edlaw 2D compliance among other things and they are tough they interviewed almost

085everyone in our staff our admin staff about was that three years ago they went door Todo and interviewed everybody and asked them questions and they wouldn't let me be in the room with anybody it they were pretty good what's the contract cost for those though uh ston right now is I we we don't have them renewed but I think they're going to come in at about 35 this year and and sorry but I saw I think it was a garet river Garnet River Garnet river is a company that we worked with on our nist framework we have to um we have to show the state yeah I I'm sure you do I just want to explain what what we have to do we have to show the state that we're moving towards compliance with the

086nist framework um they've never asked for anything but we have to literally keep the most Byzantine documentation you can imagine to show that we're doing these things and one of the boxes you check bringing somebody in to help you with that what was the contract cost for that that was like 10 grand they were cheap actually we didn't pay them anything last year um but we will probably pay them we do as much you know we try to work things out with companies when we can if we can maybe get a year free or things like that so last cyber security question trying to get through this but um like all the tools so I think crowd strike Sentinel one um like CL crowd yeah crowd strikes so like all the various no before Etc

087so have you looked at having a like I don't know how I guess ston came into it but has there been an RFP for a cyber security Outsource company to handle CU cuz like you're paying some I don't know I didn't see the breakdown of what no before is cating you crowd strike and all these other endpoint protections on top of A5 why not have it be a managed security which would end up potentially being lesser that's a great question we were doing that sort of thing with core BTS years ago and uh we actually did bring them to do most of this management for us before my time almost all of this was handled by cor BTS um unfortunately without getting into too much detail cor BTS suffered some setbacks as a company and

088we had to pretty quickly patch together a new way of doing it there are other companies that do it I trust that we know best because we're working the companies that do it are like I don't I shouldn't name companies um there are some great companies that do that so to work in some less great companies we're very comfortable with our stack and we are beginning to slide over some of this to Bose's Advanced Engineering Services so they are people who are going to monitor the crowd strike and things of that nature I think slowly what you'll see is the big increase in spend is going to drop down as these things scale because Advanced Engineering Services is now expanding to other districts on the island so they're going to cost less and they're going

089to do more that should make it easy for us to begin but we also run into some very gnarly areas trying to bring a third party into to do all of this in a school district because not everybody F can follow the data privacy requirements that we have they're intense and we have vendors that sometimes just nope out on us on a phone call because I like to look for folks who don't work in education and ask them like hey what would you do for this because they'll have the best not best they'll have the most interesting answers right we know how to do it in education what would you do uh but right now I feel more comfortable having that in our hands until Bose is more fully stood up I'd love to get

090rid of we we only have SIM the Sim because we were told the day we were renewing our cyber screen insurance they said we have to stand the Sim I don't want to talk about oh yeah okay do do we have a siso in the district or I guess part because it doesn't break down what the it who the IT staff is we have ass CIS admin yep and he serves essentially I guess ass CIS admin but who's the cyber security expert to be managing that's Michael and I Michael is the is the network side of it and I am the user side of it okay ER remember did I didn't we talk oh we didn't talk about this we're developing core beliefs and guidelines around AI usage with AI for Education nyake that's a

091plug for my organization I run an organization called NC New York State artificial intelligence Consortium we are 60 plus districts across the state um I just keynoted a conference in Boston on Sunday about AI it was really great and it's a really great group of people if anyone ever wants to pop into a ni you are invited watch that is that available online my speeches no I pay I never paid for this um we'll be expanding the use of Guardian again more classroom monitoring with go Guardian um what's it been doing I thought it was meant to be it just keeps expanding people more and more people just keep asking for it so when it's in every M it was initially an elementary school thing then it expanded in Middle School eventually it's probably going

092to be I was not required for teachers no go Gran is not required because up until we really couldn't do that because up until very recently middle school and high school students were not obligated to be on our device high school students I know are still a separate issue middle school students though now it becomes more of a there there's no longer an equity piece where like if 18 kids are on the school Chromebook and three are not those three it's so next year k through eight we'll have goard everyone will be on it and they'll be even more monitor even more monitor yes so excited are the kids kids know how to shut it off go Guardian you can't shut go Guardian off go guardian's a beast um no they hate go Guardian if

093you go on uh Reddit and just type go Guardian in Search boox and if you look in go Guardian search terms so many kids will just literally type in I hate go guardan just that and hit enter just to just to let me know because they know I think they think they know so they'll they'll be like whoever put this in I hate you my God I'm a nice guy so model School's days continue to be essential in providing text center training e so excited to finally arrive at e e is a federal program that provides discounts to schools and libraries in the US for telecommunications internet access and internet and inter Network infrastructure it is this money we had actually last year talked a little bit about using for the elementary schools we decided

094to repurpose it and use it this year for the middle schools and the high schools I can't believe our journey has come to an end questions hold on which one this whole thing the budg or the next one sorry no worries um not off the hook yeah apologies um few questions and I'll try to make it quick going back to the licensing are you saying high school students have access to Microsoft site A5 licenses yes okay in my experience I didn't know that M I don't think my kids know that either it should be an parent Tech guy but I'll send something else out be a parents for they use Chrome and and I'm I'm surprised and I guess I can't be the only one that thinks that no that's a I mean if people

095don't know we want to let them know no I didn't know cuz I was paying for a home so so am I well you're all going to save some money I know that we on this one yes oh uh sorry computer software Services 460 263 but that's only non so are they using their Jericho for jerichoschools.org for Microsoft Jericho app.org for Google we're trying to change that we're trying to merge them into one so that may be the disconnect I I don't think any of my kids know at least the two high school kids know that I guarantee you that's the disconnect and it has been the bane of my existence and J schol password it's the same Jericho schools and Jericho apps passwords are the same meain to SSO to access it they they

096could just go to portal. office.com sign them with their first initial last name at or first name. last name at jerichoschools.org password boom yours okay sorry so now on both support costs a lot of what I'm having trouble understanding is all the sort of bakedin cost what falls under B support cost not not fre all this stuff some all this is BOS support to the previous back the other way the way one more is all of this non bosies or some bosies and some all of this is non this is generally stuff that's on the cheaper side all the Bose stuff is the bigger Spence for the most part the B support includes the hard or doesn't uh yes anything that's on the Bose lines is included in that Bose support so where it says

097Bose Support Services the one four whatever is has hardware and software so there's there's Opex capex all B correct includes the 18% it does not include the net of the state a coming back the following year okay is there any in in this is is there a way to break out like what's actual Ser like physical services and Opex versus what's actual capex because it's 14 but you don't know what asked to break it out postat we have to ask I'm sure we can we break out basically Hardware software yeah yeah it just seems like it's all shov okay it it is all it's one code that's why sorry could you go back to that the breakdown of all the costs um repair maintenance and network costs I think yeah so 270 and 21 22

098to about 440 450 roughly right um what is that exactly and where do you see it going the vast majority that is what we already talked about which is crowd strike and Security Services those are all factored into that so what I see is that peaking now next year hopefully right around there we're going to hit the peak and then we'll start edging downward as these things scale most districts aren't using crowd strike yet but a lot of them are starting so you'll see the prices come down as things start to scale bosies will also enter into a Consortium agreement with them they already have one but it's not a great version of the product it's sort of like a handicap version of uh it's like not fully you know so but how's that so

099apologies but Crow strikes a software so how does that under repairs and maintenance of network maintenance of network it's a security service so it's a maintenance of network but then you also have computer software services so how do we know what for because if it's exclusively about security or maintenance of the network it'll be under maintenance of the network if it's educational or could be in use for students or used for teacher training it'll be in that okay so the cost of repairs and maintenance going from 270 to 450 for next year's budget is really like I think you said 35 was I forgot what the license numbers were for the 270 I just want to clarify was from 2122 was 4 years ago yeah sorry yeah I mean it's on there I'm just no

100no that's what I just want to clarify like I guess in four years is it going to be 600 7 you know what I mean like that's that's like is it is it a sort of I think what you'll probably see with like I said a couple times about crage strike and these other services is that they're not yet scaling because not everyone's using them it's really more aggressive security districts with more aggressive security postures once they hit the Tipping Point of like half the island using it that's when the prices start to drop that's when they'll drop that's when they dropped on canvas that's when they drop on Sis's it's when they hit a certain level of scale and they can now sell the services more cheaply okay and and then equipments on here

101that's not 's equipment so what is this equipment anything that we are going to purchase that we are going to purchase through Bose that's over I think 500 or over th over 500 M which we cannot purchase through b we could purchase through bosies we would there are certain and not necessarily because of B it could be because of the vendor as well um if we can't purchase it through bosis that's the code we purchase it to but is that like network cables and switches or is that no typically not no it has to be over $500 like over five yes so Smartboard might be on that list for example but then the the Chromebooks and stuff that are not those are through bosis okay but then the the Dells and the in the Mac

102minis are through bosis most of the time Apple stuff is going to be through boses there will be times if they offer something competitive that we will or if we need to do something in a pinch that it wouldn't be through both there's times when we do that and then last question and sorry Personnel Services again I'm looking at 21 to 2 22 to 25 26 so I guess near a million dollars now right so what's the staff difference between 21 22 versus 25 26 and and I guess is there efficiencies there or we're just adding staff to add like what's what what's gone down I guess I haven't added any staff since I started here um oh yeah yeah we switch one person sorry what was it on there was there was there was

103an additional head yeah we had one Higher One new higher I guess po yeah we switched someone over to my line other than that that's been it there was a a tech Aid position who left the district and then we upgraded the position to um more of a technology person that works in Patrick's office so does bosis offer like in the in the support cost is there physical support from bosis where they send you like an IT person if you need it yeah but but you typically your rate for the Bose the Bose charge for um Personnel Is Not Great the Bose charges for services are pretty good so if you could avoid bringing in a body from Bose but rather contract out a service that would allow you to bring it a body that

104would be the way you want to go there are districts that could contract out personel through BOS is not as not as successful as we have been here with our technology I've done that in other districts it's it can be a mixed thing okay and there's and I promise it's the last one so there is a chance that that we're paying for licenses for A5 for for high school students I don't know what the high school count is that no one's using yeah no if if we if more people don't know about it we're going to make sure they are we able to look at usage and login statistics sure okay absolutely thank you appreciate it um this is uh co-curricular clubs we increased uh this year-over-year because we're planning on additional clubs um actually

105throughout the district does that include all the expenses associated with competitions like science competitions math competitions that's all extra all the competitions are in the 2110 400 codes um Shone cost and things like that shap is salaries uh this is salaries too but is important so so like the FBLA teachers they teach they show up under education cost they take a bunch of kids to Chicago for a championship FAA is a club right Club stien associated with that that's what would be paid out of here okay so they're going to Chicago the stien is coming out of here the stien is coming out of here if they're going to Chicago or the students all the students are going to Chicago um then we're paying for those in a different Cod not out of here this

106is the salaries for the club stiens so this is that whole schedule of salar that's all it is it's not it's not overtime it's not when no you go to Disney and we pay a bunch of teachers to go to Disney that's got nothing to do with this Noe okay I'm going to introduce John M final final [Applause] okay so the Jericho Athletic program continues to be one of the largest in Nassau County and actually South County and New York State um we offered we offer a very varied experience for all our student athletes or any even kids who are just trying out for Sports for the first time so we try to have a little something for everyone uh as you can see in our high school program right now we're offering 32 varsity

107teams 16 junior varsity teams and right now two jb9 freshman teams or sometimes we refer to it as a jvp depending on the makeup of the team Middle School we have 32 teams again we try to offer separate seventh and eighth grade teams whenever possible but sometimes we need to keep them combined as straight seventh and eighth grade combined teams so here's here's what we offer for the high school as you can see we're broken up into three seasons fall winter and spring uh wherever possible again we have a JV there are just some sports that they don't offer JV so if you look at uh girls swimming there's no JB process but we do keep a very large team and everyone does get to contribute in some way cross country is straight up just

108boys and girls but once again they'll carry larger teams and those kids even if they're not the varsity starters they get to compete in different level races and be a part and contribute to the team in that way um nothing new added at the high school in the fall recently uh moving over to the winter season uh boys basketball Varsity JV and freshman um girls basketball we haven't had enough girls to have a freshman team so that's why that is not there um and you go down the list bowling fencing uh swimming track wrestling uh and this year for the first time we added unified bowling in our unified Pro program and it's really taken off and the kids I was at a meet the other day and it was just such a great experience

109watching our life skills students uh intermingling with our uh General ed students and then helping them on the on the Bowling app it was really great so I was I'm going to go over that in a little bit about how that works um but we do not have a girls wrestling team um if we had enough girls we would uh we do staff it with a coach so that our girls can compete separately from the boys so this way there's not you know we used to say okay we tell our JB coach okay the girls are going to go here so you have to go with them this week you know now we staff it uh and we'll go over that a little bit more um this uh in the spring season that we're that's

110coming up now so last year we added crew uh so they have varc status this year we have girls flag football okay for the first time um if you look down okay we offer the most amount of activities in the spring um we have to be very careful there because there's only a certain amount amount of kids and we can't keep adding in the spring because the numbers are going to start getting deleted okay and I I think you're going to start seeing that this season coming up as we've had our interest meetings we've had you know kids are signing up through family ID uh numbers are going to be okay but I think you know in some sports where we used to have say 20 on Varsity 20 on JB it may be 16

111and 16 now so those are things that we're just going to have to keep an eye on 16 okay so no nope doesn't close for another week and a half but we're talking about the orientation meetings that we have so and us you know coaches have had workouts for the spring now so they kind of have a feeling of what their numbers are going to be I think we all know how it works here uh I'll tell everyone that the portal for family ID will close Friday on Saturday morning I start getting the emails I missed I didn't do can you can you please open it up and of course I do uh so we have a lot going on in in the spring season Middle School is a little different where it's Four Seasons

112they break up the winter season into two separate Seasons again we off offer such a v variety of Athletics for our kids this year we added boy badon that's something we had been trying to do for years it was just trying to get other schools to do it and join us and they did we had um 40 athletes going out for that we kept 20 uh that was a great experience they went undefeated and they basically ran through everyone as I figured what would happen uh I think they were six and we played everyone twice so it worked out great um cross country that's one of those great Sports where if the kids can't make soccer we always try to have a non-cut sport that they can go to um winter season so we have

113winter one and two we're in Winter two right now uh girls basketball seventh and eighth grade split bowling uh boys volleyball is going on right now and wrestling which is merged so if you look back at the fall so in boys soccer we have a seventh and eighth grade separate team girls it's hit and miss every year so depends on the numbers we we plan for two and then if we can't we we go with one team of mixed seventh and eighth grade so that happens in a few different sports um again our we always try to keep them separate whenever possible gives kids more playing time more activity okay but you know sometimes it just doesn't work and it's a numbers game uh we see that a little bit more in the spring uh

114baseball we split when possible but for the last two years it's been together uh same thing with soft wall uh boys lacrosse is has always been together girls lacrosse uh boys tennis we have two separate teams okay but two separate seventh and eighth grade uh track is one team girls band Mitten this year went from being a fall sport to a Spring sport that was to align them once they added boys they wanted them align with the high school Seasons so that's worked out great for us our participation numbers fall and winter numbers are based on uh this year spring are based on what we had last year so our numbers are great fall we have 380 for the high school winter is always a little bit less okay we see that and then spring

115it goes back up Middle School uh the winter 2 season is one probably with is the least amount of opportunities so that's why that number's down but we're very happy with our numbers and the amount of students that take uh place yes same 1,53 in the High School 700 in the Middle School how many discreet students uh High School I think we figured out was like a little over 400 uh Middle School I'm not we we've never really looked at that number per se I mean I could get it to you so 400 students representing the Thousand spots up there yeah that sounds great okay program additions in the last four years so going backwards okay unified basketball was offered and then we added JB Bo JB boys and girls banditt teams uh 2024 we

116started with crew and the full return of football back to Jericho as its own entity uh this year 2425 boys was bitt for the Middle School flag football unified bowling and then we have girls wrestling kind of as its own entity there okay so what we've done with girls wrestling girls wrestling if if you read Newsday the other uh the other day they had their first New York state championship which and I was able to be there as the wrestling coordinator for Section 8 uh it it was an outstanding event and we qualified two two girls to to take part um it was it is the fastest growing sport in New York state with the girls um it so what happens is because we don't have enough girls to really have our own team they're

117in the room with the boys they're actually allowed to wrestle against boys we we made the decision now not to no longer do that our girls want to wrestle just with the girls so they're in the room with the girls we have a separate coach for them uh because they also wrestle a different style than the boys there's multiple Styles uh they wrestle one of the Olympic Styles called freestyle so it's they're not their own te they're a team within a team that's the best way to describe it and they've really done an outstanding job uh they go to their own events now um in the past they would be on the bench with the boys and sometimes they'd wrestle against the boy sometimes if another team had a girl they'd wrestle against the girl

118so that's what we're doing now with our dual meets they'll wrestle um another team if they have a girl for them to wrestle but for the most part they travel to go to different tournaments where they're in all girl tournaments so at the high school we had five this year we had five last year uh the Middle School has four so they recruit you know there all their recruiting thing is geared at boys and girls we like to let the girls know hey this is something you can do and you can try uh and we're hoping that it'll continue to grow facility program enhancements thanks to the board of ed Victor Hank everyone uh this year we added stadium bleachers on the opposite side and I know parents who used to have to sit next

119to the opposing fans or see the other teams cheerleaders cheering at us uh we're very thankful for that um it has worked out great so this way we keep the fans separate uh we did a Fieldhouse renovation this past summer okay we repainted it uh new uh wall padding I don't know about you but the royal blue gold padding I don't know who designed that but it was awful so now it's Navy and that's our colors uh and we replaced the netting uh in between and we also added uh sound um new sound system in there uh in the dance studio uh we replaced the FL the floor was coming up so we have now a real dance floor it's the same floor that we use in Coro that we put down over the stage

120it's called a Molly floor uh and we added their own sound system in there too so this way you know we're not having a separate speaker that was unreliable so now everything is in there and it's great because the speakers are in the ceiling you don't even see anything uh and it's really turned out great what percentage of our dance classes use the studio versus have to use other rooms dance is totally in the Dan no they don't go anywhere else for all the gym classes and for all the Coro classes too now Coro if they're practicing after school sometimes they'll go into the gym if it's open because it's bigger and it allows them to have more space thank you and just some program highlights uh we are a New York state scholar athlete

121School of Distinction for the last 20 years we're the only School District in New York state to achieve that um that just means that 75% of our roster has a 90 average or above during that season so that's something we're very proud of uh I'm actually very obnoxious about it with my other my brother in when they do the awards every year um the pack wave I go get it um it's something that our student athletes and our coaches take pride in this just this past week uh winter season every one of our teams qualified for the playoffs so that was a great accomplishment there's not a lot of school districts that can say that uh our boys swimming and Diving they are third in naso County we're sending nine athletes to the States they're

122leaving actually they're already up there we start they start tomorrow uh girls fencing with second in nasau County winter track has two state qualifi they compete on Saturday uh wrestling as I said before I have two girls state qualifiers uh I obviously wrote this slide a couple of weeks ago because I wrote boys and girls basketball play this week okay they already played in the playoffs uh so you know it was it was a great winter season and we're really proud of our coaches and our student athletes we had three coaching Milestones this year now we're very lucky our coaches come to Jericho and they stay in Jericho okay a lot of coaches kind of tend to be transient especially in these days where it's hard to get coaches okay uh last year Wally bman

123had his five 500th win this year Kevin brosy our wrestling coach 300 wins Andy Schneider our girls basketball coach reached 250 wins so that's that's a lot and that's just saying a lot about our student athletes and how much they love to be here in Jericho because nobody they're not looking to to leave um they're looking to be here and be a part of our program which is great uh boy bamman has won eight consecutive nasso County championships there's been three Long Island championships contested they won all of them uh they fully expect that when they group for the spring because that's when the Long Island Championship are played that they will win their fourth consecutive this year uh we've had all Americans in soccer track and field diving uh Long Island championships and soccer

124fencing band Mitten and then we we've won at the county level state level okay and then a lot of individuals who have reached okay all American Estates and that's it so just one thing that's that we we didn't mention under uh equipment and Sam I know you'll be happy about this okay there's always talk about our Stadium uh scoreboard uh the lighting sometimes on it is not great so we've looked into it and one of the things we're looking at is replacing that scoreboard uh with a new one that has LED lights on it so that will pop if you ever seen we have a couple of the scoreboards on the other fields one of them has white LED lights that one you can see from across the uh the fields so that's what we're

125looking to do there um but the problem with it wasn't that it was the sun was always like shining out you can see so these LED lights yep so it'll be much better and it'll be a better scoreboard right now it's being a little wonky sometimes it likes to communicate with the controller sometimes it doesn't so we'll be upgrading that and making sure that you know there's no problem moving forward you want me to look into doing it so we don't have the that'd be awesome while we do that while we dome the whole field that would be even better no R just a quick like legistic question how do how does news day get and I'm I'm asking because my kids play with frost but how does news day get the stats for the

126kids in scores and games so news day is terrible if you're looking for stats Newsday is not your answer so they get it because the coaches uh there's an online way I know they did I love your honesty it's very it's they're very unreliable new say like you'll hardly ever see a wrestling score in there um so they don't really get all the stats so what they'll do is when a coach puts in at the end of the game winning coach is supposed to contact Newsday uh whether or not it gets into Newsday is one thing sometimes it's you'll find it two days later in the electronic version um but they go off of there now not every school puts in every game so it might say if you look at the stats it might

127say that you know some kid is the highest scorer in basketball but then all of a sudden another team puts in all their stats and then they get P they like well how did that happen it's is there is there a and I haven't looked at the website so I'm it's happened is there a way to get the Jericho sites we don't keep stats like that it's in the coach's books everything else but we don't we don't add those to our our websites because you know first of all it's Athletics it's about the team um I the kids can always tell me who the highest score is no sorry I mean I mean scores in general I I I wasn't going down to the student at level but like there's no way to get the

128scores updated on the site that's something we've looked at with our new website that we well our new old we website when we updated this year uh coaches can put in the scores that's something that we could probably talk to them about making sure it's done more frequently we have scrolling across the top no the schedule Scrolls across when they were putting them in well they don't put them anym because the old system that we used would feed right into bosis so the the system that we're using now doesn't so they don't necessarily put them in so I I know you're not going to be here and congrats um I'm just saying it like I know it's a budget thing but it would be nice because I think it would sort of raise Sports morale

129more than like everything you just said was amazing I didn't know those great stats even the 20y year aspect of it it should be touted more I guess I know it's an education District but it's cool stuff a lot of a lot of our stuff is done through social media so if you follow our different Instagram pages okay like the coaches know if they want stuff posted on Instagram they tag they tag the Jericho jhw site and then I'll put it out either in a post or a story and this way you know that's that's one of the main things we do uh you know it's become a very you know social media type of world and that's you know we kind of go with that wait what Instagram is that Jericho j-hawks come on

130Sam you don't follow the j-hawks Jonathan per was in news day so I'm not going to say anything bad about news day this wrestling season um pop about the websites and where we stand with we had the new one then we went back to the old one but the old one seems much better than it was previously yes because we upgraded we definitely went with with an upgrade is you know like you were asking before about advertisements and stuff the old one used to have advertisements so the new one we paid extra not to have it uh there's different uh things that we use I mean obviously we use the Jericho J hawks.org as our main website okay family ID is our registration system uh that family ID uh has been working great for us

131uh again we left it and went back and you know that was the right decision to do uh so those are the two main you know pieces of software we use and there's and you as you say you deal with all these schools because you're a chairman of all these different organizations these are still the best things out there or you think there's room that your successor should spend more time focused on this to answer questions like what Mr barini was asking that well he's listening right now I know he is because I gave him the link so you know that's when I sit with him if he has any ideas you know we'll definitely look at it we tried to use the system that section 8 which is really bosis uses um and it

132could not integrate with our needs at all um it would if you were a high school coach but you were a supervisor um but you were a high school coach it wouldn't let you supervise middle school games and it just it was terrible so that's again that's one of the reasons we went back to what we use now schedule star or we call Schedule Star because that's what the online version is for us it's really you know Jericho j.org but uh it seems to be the best piece out there even all right thank you sir so thank you so the top line is all of the coaching salaries as well as the supervisors supervisors are the yellow jackets that you see uh I want to correct something I said before thank you I want to

133talk something I said before the chaperon are coded to the 2850 clubs the expenses associated with um competition entry fees flights or whatever um for the students is coded to the 2110 but the salary for the Sharon is with the clubs the same same Club thank you and then just like before the 5% increase in Personnel well this one um um 2425 budget will probably be more than the 868 uh that's what we spent last year and I know we had some additional um a couple additional teams as as John mentioned before I think the 868 is a little short this year so it's this year plus additional for next year do we I don't know if I asked that before I just asked in my head do we have six or seven month numbers

134at this point finished what do you mean six or seven month numbers we seven months eight months into the school year you got the appropriation status report every month I know but but it say it comes down to this level where you can Max it's not as long as this there's not this all these codes aren't there yeah well a lot of them are most of them are okay well the salary quotes are definitely there um the spent on the appropriation status will just show to date what we spent so far and then there's an incumbent so I look at what we think we're going to cover for the balance of the year and then there's an available which give you the net all right all right hang in there this is the last major

135category for the night um transportation I'm going to have castelle come up here and join me uh we'll kind of partner on this one castel's uh first year as a director of Transportation in he has done an absolute fantastic job this year thank you T and I'll step in every once in a while all right thank you Victor thank you to the board Mr grishman and M Manuel for the opportunity to talk about the transportation department in the transportation department we have two dispatchers 17 full-time bus drivers three mechanics and we have 53 contracted first unit drivers Jericho School District provide Universal busing for over 3,000 kids we transport uh about 80 kids to private school vocational school private school we also transport kids to NASA bosies we two main budget codes is 5510 that

136covers um the insurance uh BR software it also cover the fuel cost s and the 5540 also covered the the first student contract to nonpublic school and specializ uh transportation and you'll see the breakdown later on contract first students is own the contractor the uh the contract to all five Public Schools the transport Us in all five Public Schools over 30 private school and the five special head schools they have 18 buses and 25 vans that have with first students that picture there is from uh new teacher orientation where we drive the teachers around the area just so they have a little familiarity with the uh the community with the neighborhoods so the next we anticipate no change we still have 18 buses and 35 so this uh change from what you see um in

137the print out uh for reasons I discussed with the board all right so currently we have the 70 routes the 53 First Student Bus 17 uh Jericho drivers covered over 400 400 trips some routs covered up to eight trips per route middle school early high school elementary school high school special head private school I know Athletics and Ru keep us busy with music trips I just want to mention one thing in this category um we when I first started here we only had two drivers and we have 17 now and we took um a lot of the routes back what we also did um all most all of the local After School athletics local field trips we do internally there we don't contract out which has been a lot more efficient for the district one

138question 23 trips between our buses and first transport buses and vans how many total are running on any given day you said up to eight but what how many do we have on the road each day not for not for trip just running those 423 rounds every day there's a they all run every day how many how many how many vehicles are we using to run those for in 2 70 70 53 first stent and 17 okay they have again so they'll have an elementary route a middle school route a high school route which would be one bus one driver and they also have the 4:30 the 4:30 5:45 and the 6:30 late bus and like I said it also does athletic trips go ahead John and if you if you talk to any of

139your friends in any other school district and they ask you about after school busing for athletics their schools get out at 2:30 2:45 and they can't get buses till after 4:00 okay thank you to Victor and when lauan was here and alelle we don't have that problem here in Jericho because we have our own buses it is such an asset and it's such a great thing for our kids because they're not waiting around they're able to get on a bus right after school and get to where they need to be and not and no other school district will there that so thanks for saying that John I appreciate it the um so so can we move everything back 15 minutes school let me go let me pick it back to what John just said for

140a second uh um this we did this postco because I don't know if you remember there was a huge shortage of bus drivers um in the 2122 22 23 school year and I I mean you heard it in the news there were they weren't getting the drivers for the regular routes but especially for the after school and the Athletics and we did not have that problem because we have our own uh driver specifically for them all the buses equipped with u cameras inside and outside they're also equipped with stop on cameras if a passive motorist pass a stop School Bus while the red lights are Flash in on the stop the stop arm is out they will face a fine between $250 and $300 and they would be responsible for that violation and equipment for

141next year we anticipating getting three 30 passenger vans that's over 13 years old and 14 passenger van that's over 15 years old excuse me what is the benefit to Jericho other than the perceived increased safety from these stop ceras we received no Revenue related to that right we didn't pay for the cameras we're essentially doing this because we believe there's there's obviously a big safety issue with people passing school buses loading or unloading children all right is someone receiving it it wasn't have to put the stff I mean all I think all these are replacement vehicles um as you know we grew our Fleet over the last 10 years pretty significantly and now we're starting to get into the replacing cycle as opposed to adding additional buses to the uh to the no these are

142going to be these aren't the uh coach style buses these are regular 30 passenger vans and 44 passenger um conventional and again they Replacements um we're starting some our older buses are approaching 15 and more years old just for tick what's the electric vehicle mandate when we're supposed to have all electric buses so what's currently on the book is beginning in the 2027 school year uh 2627 school year um is that any new bus you purchase must be electric the Band-Aid goes further that by 2035 your entire fleet must be electric that's currently what's on the books now um I just don't see how that becomes reality for a lot of reasons um we're doing we're currently in the process of a study with Wendel which was um uh 75% of it was financed by

143the state um we didn't get the results of that yet but I expect them in the next two to three months um and that study is just for our property here um to convert those to electric and what charging and electrical needs we would need at our transportation Depot to handle our Fleet of buses the technolog is not there yet they looked at it with with emergency vehicles it's quot again for a lot of reasons um for us there's a lot of reasons but especially Upstate rural areas I don't see how this mandate um cost performance reduced range it's just it's it's I was just I fully agree everybody it's not going to happen whatever but so good conceptually under the books this would be the last gas bus that we would be purchasing no

144we'll have another year this isn't this 25 26 you said during the 26 27 year everything you buy has to be uh it might be the 27 calendar year but it's either way it's the Mandate is coming closer and closer I think nothing's going to happen this year changing it I a year from now we'll probably see some in the Mandate and our last slide we have three imas with the three uh School District flank with square Erics for Washington we prepar 29 school bus with them for our shop also our shop repl repaired our 22 school buses five tractors eight snow removal 16 truck and four large mowers and four trailers do we know the income this um I would say like 75,000 a year and what is our profit margin do now it

145it definitely pays for at least one mechanic just I don't want to say profit but well yeah okay but we're not we're not breaking even right I mean no we're not we're not just doing it at Cost we not parts will be parts will be at cost labor is not correct okay all right this slide as I mentioned um from the beginning of the budgeting process transportation is definitely a challenge um our contractor uh put us out to bid this year we stretched it out as long as possible over the last 3 years um we knew it was coming um we did receive the rfps we're currently negotiating with um the lowest proposal at this point um no matter what it will require a fiveyear uh contract with the uh contractor um I have definitely

146enough money for in the Bud right now for what the RFP calls for at this point uh but it is a pretty significant increase of um about 10% and we'll probably see that over the next four to five years the top line is our drivers the salaries associated with the 17 uh drivers as well as the two dispatchers the three mechanics and uh the director um and then the other items are relatively minor in compar comparon to uh to those two ones the equipment is what I just what we just talked about the three uh Vans plus the uh one bus thank [Applause] you app Patrick good [Applause] job everyone was too tired done so this is obviously a a major part of any School District budget um it's cost associated with FICA um I

147don't know why I saw MTA tax out there I got to delete that one um but also the employees retirement system teachers retirement system and the biggest line uh is health insurance the good news is that the rates they run by calendar year so for it doesn't run by school year so it's gener 1 to December 31st um last year a year ago the rates for the 20124 calendar year went up 15% for active single and family and for whatever reason for the med Medicare folks who are over 65 they increased those rates by 25% which was significant not only for us but for the retire this year they came back and pretty much everything was uh flat actually a slight decrease um which is recognized in the budget uh which was very helpful for

148this year knowing what we were dealing with with the transportation contract uh so we're happy about that ERS um employees retirement system that is a retirement system associated with all non-instructional employees um their employer cost went up pretty significantly um it went up to 15 and a half% on average uh so you see that uh difference in there as well TRS came in pretty flat so we were actually a little bit lower uh as far as the percentage uh associated with that so we were happy about that but overall again other than salaries this is the biggest part of the budget two Qui questions the health dental that's every employee including retirees correct and second um social security contribution is they about 6.2% that employer 6.2 and Medicare is 1 four five four five yes

149and so are those both included in the social security line or is Medicare in a different line both included in Social Security um it's increasing significantly um because the salaries Associated where it was capped over the last three years have just gone up dramatically and we're having less and less employees being capped if that makes sense so IOD no CU like I just back into a number there assuming there are no don't you get cing 200 I think it's I think this year was 162 something like that but if I use that years ago was like 140 so went not pretty signific so if I C if I factor that in I end up with about 77 million in salaries that if they were if they were all CA that's what it would be what

150do you think your total salary number is going to be for the district this year do you know I have to I don't have that number on the top hand it's all of the separate I know that's that's why I was asking I couldn't I know I'd miss line items had a number in your head more or less than 100 not anticipating that question so I don't that's a number that would have to be calculated okay oh and this is the last budget presentation right budgeting I would say close to 80 million in salaries 80 million salaries plus 20 million in the health and Z basically the same 100 million back into 100 million um this is the last budget presentation next week is the summary correct yes do we have a one more slide

151oh do we have a number yes those tax Gap is 2.94 and the budget to budget right now is at 2.88 um and that's what we be recommending next week next week is the best presentation not only because of my spreadsheets but the elementary middle school high school department of Music fin Arts get to brag about their buildings and their programs and you get to see a little bit of where the money goes so 2.88 is your number budget to budget 2.88 tax levy increase 2.94 this last measly slide is Debt Service and Inter fund transfers um I want to upset Jill but tax anticipation notes uh Rose to about 400,000 on the borrowing um gasby 87 that's what I was talking about earlier as far as the government cting standard boards had some changes

152and that's why there's expenses there now we lowered the transfer the school lunch for this year I don't anticipate having to transfer money again because of not being profitable I think we're going to be profitable again um although it won't look that way because we just put in $200,000 worth of new lines at the cafeteras but that's a good thing um and then transfer to special and I think that was it any other final questions good H what 2.94 it's within our tax well forget we had seven years of zero because you can doesn't mean you should yeah no we need to [Applause]