001Test test. It runs about 20 seconds. Okay. Sound is good. All right. Um, welcome to this evening's policy and curriculum committee meeting. You'll notice there's no curriculum items on there. We had two potential items on it. Um, one was there's, uh, Mrs. Deon was going to present a few textbooks um, but the quotes didn't come through. um and for all of them. So we'll hold them together and they are updating existing textbooks, not new textbooks. So it's a little bit less intensive than benefits of for series, but we'll have that at the next meeting. But the other was um one time we were presenting planning a presentation from the seventh grade trip to the Mandel Center, but we're actually going to do that at the May 21st meeting instead just get a better audience and
002um it was it seemed like a more appropriate event. So that left us with just some policy uh to clean up from continuing through our our policy revision and adoption. The first one up is policy 254, education opportunity for military children. Dr. Myers, if you want to guide us through the changes on 254. Yes. The only change that was made here previously was mention of the National Guard and we were looking to add National Guard definition. So did a quick study of the US code. Um US armed forces meaning the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and Space Force. National Guard has two segments. The Army National Guard which operates under the Army and the Air National Guard which operates under Air Force. So I thought in keeping tandom with the uh US
003code simply list national authority that manner I mean, I think that cleans up the concern for last time. I would move to move it to first reading. Second favor. I second up is policy 006.1 attendance at meetings via electronic communications. Minister brought this up a couple months in January. It was two months ago. Yeah. Um and uh have requested for you know you listener agreed to have on the agenda. um with some recommended changes. Um our first thing, you know, obviously we did run kind of the ideas past Mr. Manuso just to make sure that we get ourselves to a perfect meeting without having some eyes on him and he had shared some policies with similar approaches and the state you know sort of meets legal requirements for the governance to set and and the
004policy as it's written here is actually the PSBA 2021 version. So the last time we reviewed it was 2020. So this as it's written here comes directly from the PSBA some of the other concerns said so however we would like to move forward whether it's these revisions or something else just so you realize where I have here some copies that I've some additions changes to reading Um, these stem from numerous conversations with people throughout the district, but especially a lot of people within Kutztown Burough. Um, that they'd like to see some of these changes made as well, too. Um, you know, one one that I have on there is about be visible on the screen during the duration of the meeting. It's only fair that you know the rest of us are in attendance. I
005think the per you know the people that are viewing it online at home should be able to see the per anybody that's attending via Zoom as well too. Um especially I've had numerous people complain about noises being made in the background while they're black screen but the the audio still armed. And it does say about, you know, that you're supposed to be uh that quiet setting or something like that. Uh number two under guidelines. Uh yes, there location is quiet from background noise. Yeah. Um you know, just from that was you got the governance piece and then the administration piece. The only the only question I have from administration standpoint has nothing to do with the red necessarily, but it's more the under the authority. Um the second paragraph, a school director shall be able
006to attend a board meeting and participate in board deliberations and voting through electronic communications, but only under extraordinary circumstances. I just find that that's contradictory necessarily kind of to I guess my definition of extraordinary circumstances to what it says in the above paragraph. I don't know that I consider illness, travel, schedule conflicts, but it's just my interpretation of extraordinary. I think it is I don't I don't know that you know illness, travel, schedule conflicts and weather conditions, obviously emergency situations certainly are extraordinary. I just to me it's an interesting use of the term extraordinary. Yeah, I did. That's something else that was brought up is they kind of seem to conflict each other a little bit. I'm s sorry, where is the extraordinary? It is this the second paragraph after the after the comma says
007but only under extraordinary circumstances. In my opinion, why would it just say only under the circumstances listed above or something reference back to it gives a very clear definition and it gives a what I would consider to be a vague definition below that I mean honestly I mean I just get rid of criticism because I can't I I can't stand it. That's just me. in talking to other JOC members at other schools, they've got a little bit of at other districts. I I think I don't I guess there's two pieces just to clar to that. Um I would have to get information. I know some have gotten rid of public participation via Zoom. Not sure of the board member side just because that some version of electronic participation has existed for you know a very
008very time at phone and then whatever but I think I think many districts after you know 2021 or so did get rid of the public participation because of um some have had some challenges that I don't think we really have. Yeah, I mean after um COVID restrictions, we talked about going back to in person only and there was a lot of public outcry over that because it does make it harder for the public to attend and you know that's understandable and if we have the technology and can you you know, kind of improve transparency and and the ability for the public to keep apprised of what's going on. And I don't really feel like we've had problems. Then, you know, at first I was all in favor of going back to the main person, but
009but I get what people are saying and we have the ability. So, you know, kind of this this policy is more directed towards school directors. Yeah, you know, I have no problem letting the people attend via Zoom because I do understand, you know, being being a parent prior to being on the board, sometimes it was difficult to get the meetings and stuff like that, right? And, you know, I have no pro issue with that. I I think that the people that I've talked to that have the issue is the attendance of some. So, you know, it's certainly appropriate for people to have good digital manners and keep muted when not speaking obviously and and reminders to that factor certainly in order. Um, I think the president at roll call I don't I I certainly I
010I can't think of a really recent time, but I certainly know of times where board members have arrived later out of emergency or necessity. in Danley today. I realize it's not a it's not a full board meeting, right? But it's just recorded when they arrive when that happens. So I don't I don't think that should be different for people attending electronically in my opinion. Um, I mean, well, you go to a lot of private businesses and if you're not there for their roll call, they don't even come into the meeting now, you know. It's that's just their policy, you know, and I I understand the request for this, you know, and I do understand that sometimes there are circumstances where somebody's going to be late, but it just seems some some people just seem to
011think that it's a constant. Well, we're all volunteers here and I don't see people just wandering in late. as a force of habit. Um I think that people who do have other responsibilities, many people here have attended a variety of meetings electronically and I honestly think they should be commended for taking time out of whatever that other obligation is to also put in their responsibility to the board. Like I said, the these are all comments that I got from numerous people throughout the district and a lot of them actually came from within the burough limits. Um yeah, and if anybody else has any comments. Yeah, on that note, I apologize. It was still time to venture all the way tonight. So, um, yeah, I think, um, as far as I apologize for missing and it
012sounds like I I got the tone of, you know, when I did miss here, but I think, um, where I would, uh, come into all this or where I'm coming from is, um, just kind of looking at it from any any local elected governance body, um, I think I'd like to kind of look at this, you know, and even at the obviously at the greater board level too to have a conversation. I think conversation is a really important piece perhaps for me personally more important than you know exact wording on here but um what we expect of each other as a team as a governance team and then that also extends to what the people who elected us expect of us. Um, so I definitely, you know, see obviously, you know, where situations come up.
013Um, and then I do also where it comes into being important. I definitely think um if it is something that's more habitual then it it creates more of a a strain on the rest of the board where if that pattern would continue with every other member of the board suddenly you would have a collapse of the real collaboration continentality and the station for ourselves to um you know to kind of build that sense that creates that productive momentum Um, so I don't I don't personally I don't really want to um, you know, I'd rather have a a conversation that leads to the board feeling a certain way about this and hopefully ending in a way that we have some sort of um, expectation for ourselves. Um, I think that kind of summarizes my thoughts. I
014think you know right now the questions kind of at hand to the language. Most of it I think I mean I'm summarized but I think summarizing for the group is I think most of it is general agreement of what's on here. The questions at hand were mine about extraordinary circumstances. I just don't think that language is accurate to what's above. Um and then there was a question um to the president roll call. I think they're really the only two questions about what's on here because even the I don't know if the be visible on screen for the duration was not um but like courteous uh and this quot basically be courteous participants. So are there other questions on here what the recommended language is from either PSBA or the recognitions? Well, so the one with
015the board president may permit other necessary participants as they deem appropriate. Um, who is that referring to? Is that referring to I think that's presenters. That's I was I was reference I thought that was referencing that we can have other guests participate in the meeting remotely. Um, you know, we have had at times uh was was remote one. That's what I believe that is referencing. It's just that we can have presenters in remote view. Um, you know, and I mean, honestly, you know, I've done it in the past. It's been a while, but there's times where I've participated as well because I'm sure it's a trip in the summer. So, that's all I believe that is if there are other people, you know, it's not. So, if it's a committee meeting, it should it be
016the board president still? Well, probably not. You're right. Like, if down here, if it says or committee chairperson, that probably should say that up as well, right? Yeah, I would think that would make sense. Um, yeah. And also that number one under guidelines that submit requests at least three days prior to the meeting if it's as a result of illness. Yeah, you might not have three days, schedule conflicts, weather conditions or only travel planned travel would be the only one of those conditions that really could necessarily be able to be done. Right. So, not sure how we might want to adjust that to reflect reality perhaps in circumstances that apply such as the ones that were at the top. So other emergency situations essentially if I'm not mistaken the reason for that number one is
017because our board president hasn't even known about certain people not being here at all. Right. Um I think Ed was that a part of the PSBA. Yeah, that's actually in the PSBA 2021 recommendation. So I don't think it's specific to us. It's more that was the pitch which again I I don't really I think that also just like the under extraordinary circumstances contradict that first issue. Right. I would agree. I mean there's no reason that when possible people can't give notice and I think you know there were times you know certainly when people were missing in person and you know generally you know when I was chair of this committee generally I would get an email it was usually like you and me as committee chair would get the email so we were aware that's
018most most common that's what right committee chair board president myself in a text. Right. So I mean obviously it's convenient and courteous to have a heads up. Um, but I a 3-day prior I said, you know, maybe when possible advanced notice and at least, you know, prior to the start of the meeting that whatever people need to know can know. I think I prefer something more along the lines of, you know, so that's more passive. So it's when possible. I'd rather it be more like that's the norm with exception instead of making the rule, you know, the rule should be the expectation for the three days. Except uh emergency situations or what was the other word? Extraordinary. Well, we're thinking about getting rid of extraordinary. Okay. So, just emergency situations. I think the importance of
019this comes into play too with I mean you don't again this is this this might be just more generalized but I think the overarching goal is we want we want to encourage attendance and I think that should be something that we would you know we're policing ourselves and each other on to all extents that you know we're we're doing our due diligence that we're here for. Uh and I think that's so what makes this important is before I was on the board I I think there was a situation seeing me as a parent um who was attending where there could have been people on the board who I think were not here daytoday and experiencing the day-to-day of KZtown which again can pull you away from the ability to you know fruitfully fulfill your role
020what we're doing. So again, I mean, I guess that's really kind of an overarching thing, but I guess I would go back to I'm probably, you know, fine with wording tweaks on this, but it would be really nice to have, you know, the greater conversation on the board level, too, just so we can kind of hash these things out. There is policy that governs attendance at meetings and if board members miss the certain number of meetings. Yeah. What's that? I think it's if you miss two on the ground. Yeah. And it's again it's like two in a row without you know reasonable conflicts that can you know and that's been kind of determined over time the case law study illness emergency weather work conflicts I mean all those things have qualified it's going to be
021under I guess one of the things that I heard a lot of is you know yeah this is a volunteer position basically we don't get paid for this but when you're running for the school board, you should know the time commitment involved in it, too, before you enter the political arena. And we're here to represent the uh people of the Ktown School District. And when those people don't feel that they're being properly served, that's where a lot of these questions have come from. But making the effort to attend from afar via electronic attendance, you're still putting in your time. But it goes back to the people that said all the noises and drink making in the background is what they heard. And when you start to stay at home, come talk first. when when you
022have a lot of people complaining about that and I did hear it on one of the Zoom calls by a board member. They were making drinks in the background could hear the the class being stirred numerous times during that meeting. Do you think that's fair to the people of Sttown to the students to the parents? I don't Well, I would say that in that case, which I didn't see, but that would not be paying full attention or being fully present. So, I would agree that that is the case. I would agree that people who are 100% not here are also not fully participating or giving their time. So, um, you know, maybe that was a time they shouldn't come. I mean, I came last week, I mean, last month to this meeting when I was
023really sick because this policy was on here. And, you know, hopefully no one else for that. I kind of ended at 7:30. We ended the meeting at 7:30 because, you know, we kind of committed to that. So, I apologize if that's why you No, no, no. I came I was ready to leave because I was really feeling horrible. Yeah. But so that was fine. I'm ra I'd rather be like not really sick talking about this fall. Um but you know that's why I came. I was like, "Well, I don't want to be talking about this online even though I'm really sick because then so um here um and and I get what you're saying Jeremiah about um you know that people need to know that you know there's that commitment and also So often times
024there are not a lot of people clamoring for board positions and when people know that there is the opportunity to still contribute and hold up their civic responsibility through dedicated electronic attendance. that might be a reason that they would say okay this is probably and go back as having the public attend like if we can not that we should all just randomly I I agree that we shouldn't all just randomly attend electronically because I do agree that the conversation can be more stilted if if we're not in person. But I think that people attending that way when they have conflicts or other obligations is better than not attending. think what I'm want to what I'd like to kind of maybe refocus on here is then having a conversation andor how this would reflect in the
025verbiage where we're reflecting the rule with exceptions instead of incorporating the exceptions as being rule. So I would be hesitant to want to promote the the idea that um there is a you kind of like a lower bar for your attendance expectations. So therefore we're opening it up for more people to qualify because then I would personally I would be concerned. I I mean again it's not just this is a I think this is this is us as a board but then there's also the component of the people who are electing us. So, I I would be more concerned about that aspect of it. Um, well, it there's actually the paragraph in here that it says a majority of school directors shall be physically present at board meetings to conduct business. It's in this policy.
026Yeah. I would like I would like us to again beyond just verbiage hopefully with this greater conversation get to a point where we can you know rally around the idea of the importance the importance of the presence being something that is a rule not an exception. So we have that standard. So, this is the standard. And again, that's that's kind of I think you verbalize kind of where I think that's where my fear that would go is where this would um potentially put people into a a point where they go, well, I don't, you know, I don't have to be tied here. I can be pulled in a thousand different directions. And I can, you know, the expectation is I'm only putting in this and maybe partial effort is not the correct word for it,
027but I do agree with you. I think it's it's better to always attend virtually than not attend. But I think we we just run a dangerous I think any organization where you're making decisions as a group, I think it it enters a slippery slope. All right. Well, so I mean the first paragraph of this addresses when it is appropriate to attend electronic and it's not indicating that it's just because you feel like it. Right. So correct. I think that sets the tone. Yeah. I also just to reference 004 membership has it's under removal so it's a little hard to find but basically is a school director shall if a school director shall neglect or refuse to attend two successive regular meetings for the unless detained by sickness or prevented by necessary absence from the district
028or if an attendant said any meetings uh she shall neglect refuse to act in additional capacity school director. It's it's a broad term to say basically if you are refusing to come or neglecting to you know to come which none of these are then that's what school language legal absence or is neglect or refusing and I mean I I don't mind having a conversation as an entire board about like the value of being able to have discussions and you know the desire or intent that whenever possible all the board members will attend in person in a timely fashion and put forth then you know that's like a norm right that hopefully all of us agree on and I mean the one thing that I'm looking at here is on this first paragraph they have to
029have illness travel schedule conflicts and weather conditions. It says and other emergency situations. So is are they implying by adding that that the illness, travel, schedule conflicts and weather are emergency conditions? I think they're admitting that they can right like you illness can be an emergency or illness could be either certainly either travel maybe it should say I think what's there covers it pretty well right it's just there are reasonable reasons in 2025 to attend via you know remote attendance. I think they cover that pretty well and none of them are right but none of them fall under that that category case. Um so I think well just done some details is expected really important you know we already agreed I think four chair chair person um and you know president roll call. You know,
030the question I think at hand. So, is it is that a higher standard for remote attendance than it is for visible, right? things with fresh is that if somebody walks through the door that's kind of I think that's a good discussion point because jumping in midstream remotely is a little bit more has the the has the the opportunity for more to go wrong than just walk that's just so possible seen. So I was just going to say so this was adopted a month after co April 14th of 2020. This was actually adopted in 2000. Oh okay. It was it was reviewed. Yeah because of attendance prior to 09 or prior to I the '09 date is a false state typically just because in '09 the board either first partnered with board docs and part of
031that I think and part of that package was to get all your policies reviewed. So you'll see 09 as the adopted date or last review date for most of our policies. So I don't want to say it's false but it's it takes a little bit more historical review to know what that actually is. Almost all of our policies say or So we're we're including or committee or chairperson we're applicable and then for number one at the bottom three days prior to meeting with exception to and then we can tweak that emergency situations essentially the two things we're open. Um well we come to consensus about is president at roll call. I'm okay with that. I don't understand why it should be different. I mean, say, um, you know, you're at your child's surgery and it
032ends at 7:15 or you're free at 7:15 and you jump on. I guess that one stem from jumping in just to vote on one or two things and jumping back off again. Have we had that? That's happened before, too. So I guess what was so your concern is the prevention of participation in the entire meeting if there's just a Yeah. So again, we we're getting to this. I understand it, but it my concern is it opens up that slippery slope and then it just provides more of a uh incentive to to be here in person whenever possible. And then ultimately, we also have all of these meetings streamed live. So there would be no you wouldn't miss any of the content. It would just be the participation piece that would be lacking. So, I guess
033that's kind of how I'm looking at it. I'm kind of looking at it as, you know, there I'd rather have go up than go down in general. And I think that one would be we're elected to participate, not to watch the meeting. Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. which is why somebody is forced to join late because of whatever their emergency or conflict is then joining late should not be a barrier to participation. So then how would we prevent the oning off again? I guess that's the question and that's where I think it kind of comes more the important part comes more to a conversation with you know the expectations I mean how do you prevent that would be essentially saying once present you must remain present the remainder of meeting you know because I
034think if somebody came late in person once they're here they're here you know I don't think that's that's reasonable I guess what happens if the situation the emergency happens during a meeting have to leave. We started here at roll call need to leave. Um that gets to be worried. So what that would look like you know you either need to be I mean we could say you either not be present either need to be present have roll call or if attending late must remain for the rest of the meeting and then that's a decision point for you as a board where it's like I had an emergency I can't be here something happened should I jump in? only through admittance the rest of the meeting which you know there's a focus aspect there if you're
035in the middle of something that's so disrupting that you have to jump in and step out I don't know how focused you are either so I don't I think there's something we can come to on that I don't know exactly what that wording is but basically you're hear call so you're no here no longer or you are here and then for the meeting I don't know if that that addresses all those pieces some that makes sense I mean, I I get that like, yeah, the whole jumping in and out, but that would be weird if somebody were here. But that's that's what it would feel. I mean, if we So, if we change that, maybe we should have that that board member needs to notify that they're going to be jumping in later on in
036the meeting and then, you know, then they'll stay for the rest of the meeting. I mean, I think I mean, just just popping in, right? I don't think it is. Yeah. You know, I know Dr. Myers is pretty responsive over there, but he generally adds up. Yeah. So I was going to say there there have been cases where people were on kicked off they come back panelists you know there's all kind technology considerations all in all are limited thinking back over the last what five years it's been pretty good consistent and reliable point being there has to be a new way consider technology I think some reason somebody can't get home because the internet goes out five minutes later. Those things do have. So, it's something in that nature that we could come up with
037between now and May 21st be acceptable for first reading is that basically you're here at roll call until you leave or from when you give prior notice you're going to be arriving late and then stay that prior notice could be like a text. I've read that at times too only because once again if it's an internet connectivity issue or whatever something that's beyond control things have happened right um Dr. Do you know in the second paragraph under guidelines says the majority of school directors shall be physically present at a board meeting when a school director attends through electronic communications and then there's that reference to two but there's no reference like law or school code or um other so I just clicked on the link the live it says section 422 quorum filling vacancies. A
038majority of members of the board of school directors shall be in a quorum. If less than a majority is present at any meeting, no business shall be transacted at such meeting, but members present may adjourn to some stated time. Provided that if there shall be a minority of the board president because a majority of the seats are vacant, then in such case the minority members of any such meeting may fill vacancies in manner provided act. So it really goes down to defining what a forum is. It's not specific to remote um but it's I I it's kind of a it's a way of our policy defining a quorum which is all necessary to have a meeting to be physic with that because there's no case law hasn't happened where case law set so that's where
039the PSA is coming from as far as making sure And then again to kind of confirm that even further is then when you go to the backside for the emergency conditions, it defines that under emergency conditions that prevents or discourages public gatherings due to a public health or safety concern. The board shall be authorized to conduct meetings primarily or entirely via electronic communications to enable all school directors messages participate because you can see what so that's it's clearly defining what a quorum is during sure regular condition versus declared emergency. So it's do we need it to address committee meetings that aren't Yeah. So, so as we talk through this, right? So, you know, sometimes that's probably why it only said we're president because this was only referencing full board meetings. But if we want to
040reference both, we just have to go back through and make sure it's talking meetings voting meetings or committee and committee meetings. That's that's how we've discussed it this entire time, but in hindsight, this was only the PSBA was only filled to address, right? And I mean, there aren't forum concerns at committee meeting. Fair enough. Um, so that um just I just noticed this, but back to the the president roll thing down at number three. It says participate the entire board meeting. Yes. So, yeah. Yeah. Well, kind of say I think we got to go back to the president role because it's or delete that one. I mean, that from PSBA that that was from PSBA or that's where we we flesh out, you know, if you arrive late, you stop staying full time. you're there
041at roll call and you have to leave for emergency blah blah blah because I I mean my feeling about that is the same as how we would treat someone in person So that's we're we're still okay with notify it late to so we're still okay with that. We would just plug that into number three participate in the entire board meeting or you I mean that's that's what I'm saying. We got to something something's got to change contradicting down below what now we just agreed to up front. So we either flesh it out in number three and just get rid of president roll call up in the first paragraph or flesh it out in the first paragraph and get rid of number three below from a organization standpoint it makes more sense. I would agree trying
042to get real in paragraph. Yeah. And then I think um Jeremiah your second note on page two possible limit on number of Zoom participants I think have is already being addressed with the majority school directors shall be present part I mean that like I said this this is all suggestions from community so but I'm not I'm not challenging that I'm just saying I think we're already addressing it here Unless we're updating that, right? Because we're going to update that to deal with committee and it already says that the must be present. Well, unless is that what you meant by possible number of student participation? Is that for individuals over the course of a year? Yeah, that's that's what it was addressed as well. Sorry, don't understand what it says. Um because I mean again if
043we're not physically here for two meetings in a row then that starts throwing the question you know does that person get replaced and yeah they're attending via Zoom but again some people feel that they're not being fully represented when you're attending via Zoom all the time. So I mean like I said these are conversations I've had with several people in the community. be exposed to that. I think it's very individual. I think for instance if I were undergoing cancer treatment I couldn't come here but I could well there'd be attend limitation you know exceptions you know if you're going through cancer treatments of course you're not going to want to come to something like this but you know like I said you know this is conversation community yeah I I definitely I'm I think I'm
044pretty staunch they are against making rules based out of exceptions. I think that's that's where it tends to get slippery because again no matter how unfortunate the situation may be eventually there could be the point at which you can't perform the duties at which you're expected to fulfill and then you would have to forego that. So if there's if we're you know essentially allowing it so that we can you know kind of limp along in a limited capacity that's not benefiting the group or you know worse then I would hate to make that the the rule. Does that make sense? I hear what you're saying. I don't feel like we're limping a lot. I don't think we've been No, I don't see No, I'm not necessarily talking about I'm just talking here. Sorry. Yeah. No,
045I'm not to imply that. Um, and and I get not making rules based on exceptions, but I also I think many times when we're creating policy, we on this board and many previous boards, we've tried to not make it overly rule heavy or restrictive either so that a reasonable person can make a reasonable decision and not violate policy. something concerned about as you as we talk about it. I think the the language on that becomes tricky because there are certainly situations as you know as referencing illness related where um that would be a reasonable accommodation to participate you know based off of our requirements to be accommodating right like it's physical most of it's going to be so somehow we would have to maintain language saying we would all have reasonable xy circumstances probably want
046a specific or just to protect ourselves that way for all the situations we're saying. So think that's going to take a little bit. Maybe we can get something together with him. See expands on that. That's more for first reading or um kind of draft up language now to pick up between first and second reading that most so and this isn't something that we're pressing forget approve and I imagine there's going to be a lot of discussion at the board meeting we do bring this up so I mean you want to have Mr. Vancou take a look at it. I mean, we can go we can go forward with go forward with what we have here and get his comments on these final this final piece really and then bring it back to committee. Is that
047what you're thinking? Or you want to have I'm all right either way. I mean, I think I agree. I think like the discussions are important for everybody to be a part of. I think so. I would be fine if we want to try and hash out more details here to get it a little bit more refined or just to present it the board for it. I'd be open either way. Yeah, I'd be right. Yeah. I mean, if there's no rush to just bring it back better. Okay. All right. So, we can table. Yes. Z6. Thank you. And then still have time for I guess that brings us to policy 247 A policy 247 there's some minor revisions section the title N section has been reverted to discrimination harassment title N coordinator has been added as
048a term next to the compliance officer those who could be involved in the investigative process. Law enforcement is substituted for the term police and the safe schools act has been eliminated crossed out in favor of school safety and security provisions of the school code which has heard across multiple policies. questions, comments. Okay. All in favor of moving 247 to the full board say I. I. Any opposed? And then good. Yeah. So, we can move on to 234 pregnant married students. definition was added regarding pregnancy and align Pennsylvania relations commission guidelines and regulations. There are options that we can include as far as making accommodations for students experiencing pregnancy. They are optional. They're not mandatory. They are X. However, they do not necessarily need included in the policy. The paragraph above guidelines. Now, this policy is
049last reviewed, excuse me, last revised in 2009. So I'm assuming there might have been a couple revisions of the policy guide throughout that we uh we did not undertake. So point being the paragraph above guidelines no longer exists in the current PSBA policy guide. That's why it's find out. Yeah. had a question about the paragraph above that. Uh the district shall not require documentation for establishment. So like what does that mean? Like we can't ask them to prove that they're basically. Yeah. Okay. Is that just because it's illegal? Like it's legality. Yeah. is that we're not really entitled to that information unless we need to know it, which most situations we're going to need to know it. And then, you know, um it I don't see a scenario where that's going to happen unless it
050was very early in a pregnancy. I think it's protecting someone very there there are multiple legal citations there. So, I think anytime you see that, that's that's coming right from legal code. The only thing that I would recommend changing on this just because of broad definition is that last X says counseling. Um, and I just people could interpret counseling mean different things. I don't want it to be a situation where the policy was used to determine that the school is required to provide some type of counseling above what we already. So I think some language of um similar to um access to existing school counseling behavioral health resources, right? Like because we have a bevy of them and we would provide access but in the instance where somebody would say well it says here you
051will provide counseling and then try to define that and try to help resources that we are. So, I just I would recommend some change of language if that makes sense to me. Yeah, that sounds good to me. And other than that, I would like to see all the rest of that included. Everything else aligns with, you know, current practice and this practice. The definition counselor can become more nuanced. says any other questions or all right so we will include breaks during class through access to appropriate facilities and the excluding counseling I was recommending just changing it to access to existing school counseling behavioral health stuff we're already providing exist we don't do that then somebody could say well I'm going somewhere else and here's the bill right got it okay with that one minor change
052All in favor of moving 2344 to the full board say I. I. I. Any opposed? Okay. So, we're at 659. Probably a good place to break. All in favor of journing the meeting say I. I. I. Meeting adjourned. addition to follow the order of the uh extracurricular and facilities committee meeting. Uh first up we'll do extracurricular of the art club or the [ __ ] up first. Art club. Okay. So, we have a uh a new proposal for a new club. Uh the middle school art club. Uh almost an extension of the high school art club. Uh Miss Senor up at the middle school. She's looking to be the uh uh the adviser for the middle school art club. Uh working closely with uh with Mr. Hoffman to kind of replicate a lot of what they're doing
053there. U for students to be a part of. They're looking at uh 25 to 30 students uh maximum starting out right now. Uh after school be once or twice a month for one to two hours per meeting. It's open to all seventh and eighth graders. Um eventually possibly opening up to some sixth graders as well in good academic standing and capable with the with the uh with art. Um probably halfway through the year to get them acclimated um and having the seventh and eighth graders kind of mentor them to coming into the club. Um, so it just seems like a very good opportunity to kind of expand our, you know, very very uh very good art program here down to the middle school and kind of get them ready for some increased opportunity when they
054get to the high school. Yeah, there's no real projected costs at this time, right? They would just use I mean they use curriculum resources that pretty well stock work. There's no stipen at this time. Um and just to kind of review that with the CBA that was approved um last meeting there was an in overall increase to stipens based off of the list that existed and collaboratively with the representatives. We took the agreed upon increase and reassigned the additional money based off an increase based off of um general time and responsibility for those clubs. And then there was a handful that really hadn't been active. So we've reassigned those to existing clubs that did not have a stipen. kind of in the language of importance is that there are times where we come with a
055club to committee and ask for a stipen with it. Um we will not be doing that anytime in the very near future just because it has been um you know the stipens have been established contract and a clause was put in there that if a club does not run to start the year that the administration can recommend that that stipen be reassigned to a club that is running that currently doesn't have a stipen or to incentivize creation of the new club at that point that so we just want to follow that process you know for the next two years for life um in addition in June at committee you know something we've been talking about variety of ways it's important related to um not only you know establishing that list of clubs but also for
056the sake of talking about pay to participate brings up some of the issues or facility use of the the fun work which is engaging in you know is to really bring a variety of categories of existing club for the community just because there's over time you have your you know you obviously have your athletic program you have your music program you have yearbook and class advisors and clubs very well defined that we find there's some other not very well defined activities but we want to make sure that we have an accurate list in category that makes sense which is challenge categories make sense and bring that forward committee just so we all know makes decision based on that. So that's not directly related to this but this would be considered a school sponsored club in
057the policy the school sponsored club is comes to committee you know and it gets recommended um to the full board. There are there are also and is allowance for in the policy for some activities to occur that are not exactly school sponsored clubs. So, we also want to catalog those as well. Um, and that falls under kind of the limited public forum rights of of students within the school that they can organize and meet, but doesn't have to be a school club. So, it just gets comp way more complicated than it should be. Um, so we want to bring it all together in June. That being said, we are we are recommended committee the art club as a school sponsored club. Just sounds like a great opportunity to engage younger kids and to something that
058we already offer at the high school level. Looking to move this to all right. Next up, we have spring sports postseason update. I am fresh from Lionsfield, so uh we had a big evening up there. So, I'm going to start off with boys tennis and baseball before I get to softball, but it is good news once we get to the softball section. Uh so, for a boys tennis team, their season has concluded. They finished nine and two this year and they qualified for the team county playoffs. Uh they lost to uh they lost in quarterfinals to Daniel Boone in the and BCIAA playoffs. They also qualify for the District 3 218 tournament as the number six seed. Uh the top 12 teams in District 3 get in. Uh we did host the first round uh
059match against Trinity on April 29th. Um fortunately Trinity did win, so our season has concluded, but another another really good year by our boys tennis team. Um you know, by all accounts, I think they they've kind of taken a a step forward that some of the players may not have even expected this year. they really came together and and improved throughout the season and surprised a lot of opponents. So, really pleased with that and have a lot of those members returning next year. So, next spring looks to be a very looks to be a very competitive one for our team next year. Baseball, this is the fourth year in a row that they're Burks Division 4 champs. Um, it came down to basically the third criteria in tiebreaker scenarios with that. Um, so we did
060we finished tied in 100 play with Oolie Valley and then it came down to head-to-head matchups since we played each other twice. We both split. Uh, we were one and one against each other and then it came down to the third criteria which was the district three power rank and we edged them out in that. So that gave us a division crown and allowed us to participate last week in the BCIAA playoffs where we faced off against defending state champion Governor Mifflin in the first round. Uh, it was a tough ball game. Uh, Governor Mifflin outlasted us. They won 10 to two. And right now, our baseball team is playing tonight in a final regular season game against Twin Valley. It was a postponed game from last week with a couple rain days. So, we're
061getting that in before the district 3 rank uh power ranking deadline, which is tomorrow. Um, so next week, next Monday is when district 3 playoffs begin. Uh, we'll be on the road in the first round likely as a number five seed in quarterfinals. Um, and we'll travel to number four, which looks like will either be Brooks Catholic or Y missing. So, it'll be a local uh District Three opening game for us. And then if we win Monday, then we'll be in the District Three semi-final game on Thursday, May 22nd. And then the District Three Championship game would be Monday, May 26, which is Memorial Day. And this year, the uh uh since we are up in 3A, the District 3 champion and the runnerup qualify for the PIAA tournament. and Memorial Day Monday down at
062Penn Medicine Park in Lancaster, home of the Lancaster Stormers, the Honor League Baseball Team. They are hosting a 3A, 4A, 5A, and 6A district 3 championship games and sort of a baseball championship carnival, uh, is what we're kind of building it at. It's an all turf facility. So, based on the Lancaster Stormer schedule, it's what fit in. And uh District 3's reasoning is well if they were playing on Tuesday in the championship game they'll be practicing on Memorial Day anyway. So may as well we have a we have a turf facility which can withstand you know some inclement weather if it if it becomes a need. So they're putting four district three championship games all in a row Memorial Day Monday. For our softball team it's the fourth year in a row that they are
063Burks Division champs. The last three years they were division four champs and this year we moved up um into division three and we finished undefeated in league play and we are the Burks division three champs. We're the overall number one seed in Burks playoffs. We beat Brandy Wine to six uh six to1 this past Saturday evening and we just concluded our game against Hamburg tonight in the semifinals. We won 14 to1 in five innings. So that takes us to the championship game which right now is scheduled for Thursday up at Lions at 6:30. Uh bending the weather, the forecast looks very unsettled for the rest of the week, so we'll have to see how that plays out. But we will be playing the winner of the Wilson Twin Valley game, which is being played right
064now at the Lions. District 3 playoffs will be next Monday. We will be hosting a quarterfinal game. That'll be a 6:30 p.m. start up at Kutztown Park. Right now, we're the number two seed with a somewhat of a possibility of moving up to number one. Semi-finals are scheduled for Thursday, May 22nd, which if we win, we wish that as well. town park and the championship game is the day after Memorial Day on May 27th at Millersville University. So this year, three teams from AAA in softball advance to the PIAAA tournament. So the two teams who lose in the semi-final game, they'll playing a third place game on May 27th with the higher seed hosting. And then our track and field team, we have this the district championships coming up this weekend, Friday and Saturday out
065at Shippensburg. Uh we have 18 athletes competing this weekend. Eight boys and 10 girls. Uh in the 4x8 relay we have Daniel Calli, Kate Lazto, Egan Su, Tucker, and Jackson Hillyard. Up that team, the 100 hurdles we have Lucas Hoffman. Long jump, we have Jimmy Underoupler. And in the triple jump as well as Jimmy and shot, we have Gavin Hock. The 4x4 relay, we have Emma Zimmerman, Sydney Chappelle, Caitlyn Hopley, and Clara Engel. The 100 hurdles we have Olivia Boss. the 3200, Lena Kley, the pole bolt, Anna Nyiggard. The long and triple jump is Clara Engel. The shot foot is Becca Bass and we have two javelin throwers going, Riley Durstein and Lilia Vizilante. Then the following weekend, Memorial Day weekend is the PIAA state championships again out of Shippensburg. That's May 23rd and 24th.
066And then next week on Tuesday, May 20th, uh we have two of our big end of the year events for the athletic department. uh in the high school auditorium during connections. We have our NCAA signing day ceremony and recognition for all of our student athletes uh moving on to compete in college next year. Right now we have eight student athletes being recognized at that that ceremony on Tuesday. And then later that evening we have our end of the year athletic awards that is scheduled for 5:30 p.m. uh in the high school stadium. We changed it from the auditorium to the stadium last year. It seemed to be very wellreceived and a lot of people had fun. also made it very nice that the weather cooperated with us last year and hopefully it will do again
067same this year. Next week just gets very busy towards the end of the year. We were originally looking at Wednesday, but there's a big AP geography and and government field trip down to Washington DC which takes a lot of our student athletes away from us until 8 o'clock at night. Um so we moved it to Tuesday and then we had to move it a little bit earlier because we have an ele elementary concert Tuesday evening as well. So figured there's some parents and families that are doubling up with some of that. So come to the athletic awards at 5:30 and go right to the elementary concert right after that. Um so a lot of rainy they'll just move inside if the weather's correct. So if we do get some rain figure we're athletic student athletes
068and athletic families we'll just go right into the high school gym and make a bit from there and they can just walk right up the hallway to the elementary concert. Been busy end of the school year again. Yeah, always is. It's always a fun time. No games on graduation. No, not this year. I was able to talk District three and out of that this year. Well, it sounds like they have a busy some of them have a busy schedule coming up here yet. So, congratulations to them and hopeful for future success moving forward. Aaron, other comments? You didn't say anything about volley boy volleyball? They they this was just a postseason update. So our boys volleyball season they did end they finished four and 11 this year. Um the four wins were very good. The
069team improved throughout the year co our first year head coach Eric Fleming did a fantastic job with the boys this year. I know there's a couple guys on that team that I know and that team was assembled from a lot of athletes that never played volleyball and uh I think they got took their lumps early on and then started winning some games. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was it's encouraging. It was fun to watch, you know, just just talking to some people out in the hallway, you know, in between some of the games and, you know, seeing them at different different events. They a lot of people just say how how much fun watching the player this year. Yeah. I I made a comment to the these two young men. I said, you you don't realize
070how lucky you are to have had an opportunity to play a sport that you never played before. In a lot of bigger schools, you wouldn't have never had. So pretty cool that they not only enjoyed it but started winning at some games, you know, let play. I mean various people connected or not connected with the team is saying what a great job coach that this year first year coach some great experience first year volleyball coach just he really you saw the improvement game. Yeah. I don't know what he did to get people that never played volleyball to actually step forward, but I speaking as a previous coach, that's not an easy task. No. So, he did a great job with it. And he's local, lives in the school district, so hopefully we have it for
071a few more seasons. That brings us up to facilities. I I don't think it was listed this way on the agenda, but since Ed's here, I think talking about the track first makes makes the most sense. That's fine. It's fine. Uh Mr. Yuga and I have been just talking about that track. I think it was done in 2017. 2018 was our first official season on the track. So 2017 is when it was finished with installation. So between wear and you know dirt on average uh obviously the lines are starting to diminish. I mean I would say less than I mean you can still see them but it's not of of where we want to be. Uh so we were provided we with a quote to clean and repaint uh for 46,500. Uh that is from
072the people who did the original install of that. uh if we were going to proceed further and do the entire track uh start to finish with that it was just under uh 300,000 was 299 by 20. So we just looking at that uh it's a maintenance item and you can still see the track lines but uh get close to 10 years on there. So, so we'll take the 46,000 that was just a clean basically a pressure wash and repaint the lines around the entire track, all the lines. And then what did the 300,000 that's to reurface? Got it. The rubber. It's basically like a a rubber board on there, you know. Uh I'm just going just for comparison. I don't recommend that we need to do that, but when they're quoting us, they gave us
073that as an option just to, you know, if we wanted to go that direction, just the lifespan of that surface, we're at 10 years. Uh, it's always how often do you use it? you know, how many people uh let's say in a previous life that was at the Olymp Training Center and depending on what part of the track got used, we actually replaced part of of that specifically, they would cut out spots and just do that where the starts were. We're starting to see that, you know, where we're trying to do the javelin throw that, you know, they all stop at the same spot. It's just Bob said started off the same spot. So, there was a hole there constantly place that So again, when you when you ask what is a normal time, how
074many track meets do you run? How many people do you allow on there? How many We've had a couple holes uh that we put in there by mistake and moving moving uh pads around, but uh overall it's holding up pretty nice. This is not a necess necessity. We're just bringing this up that sometime in the future we're going to have to do that. when when we asked if we could pressure wash it or do it, they were a little leerary that we would potentially damage it. But also, if you're going to pressure wash it, you may most likely take away the remaining paint that it's on there. So, yeah. So, it sounds like something that we can hold off on for another Absolutely. Absolutely. We're just bringing it up, you know, as a Yeah. Yeah,
075I mean I think that there's a very good chance every year, you know, heading into the 26 27 year that we might talk we'll be talking about let's do the cleaning and repainting, you know, try to get extended as much as possible. It's just when we will be ready to resurface. I don't know. I think we're a lot away from that. So maybe cleaning and resurfacing do that from here every couple years for the next I don't know like I don't you know that that might be something we do just because um we don't always want to go that route they'll see us track you know I would think resurfacing is going to come from like the track coach and Richard out there Mr. out there like saying like this is looking like it's getting
076pretty worn. We need to think about it in x number of years performing well, right? Like it looks it looks it looks dirty. It looks dirty. So, but it hasn't been painted or anything in 70 years, right? Yeah. I mean, I think overall it's holding out good. And again, the track surface is fine. You know, you'll still find a little bit little bits of rubber, you know, in areas where it rains heavy that'll wash off. I don't know anything about tracks. That sounds pretty sounds pretty good to me. Deep surface. Yeah, I think it's very good. But again, visible just as well asformational, hey, we might not do it this year, you know, again, but in years, you know, future years, it's it's it's coming up. Something to have on the radar. Absolutely. Is it
077worth like budgeting that in like the cost predict that it cost you know $50,000 budget in 20,000 a year to say all right once we hit three years now we can do this take a look. Great. I think we might as well have Mr. the next one as well since that involves. Yeah. What was the stage? Stage four. Stage four. Uh and there's a it is less than this. This is confusion. Our salesperson had left. Okay. So this was the old quote. See there's 44 and then 132. Yeah. So it comes back down to 13516. Okay. So it is back to 13,000. uh verified with that today. They were trying to put it because it's 44 is the minimum that they you have to buy sheets because it's coming from Washington state. So this was
078something that was brought up uh I believe last year a little bit October probably October. Yeah. And I think we we actually from a standpoint of uh oh actually actually it was earlier yeah it was earlier than that he he took all the art and stuff put it on the stage. So we kind of missed that window. Uh and then we did some temporary repairs and with the with the thought of that we'd come back and do it completely. Uh again just wanted to revisit because it is a you know a number that we should you know discuss. don't I didn't really get any feedback besides thank you for those couple repairs. Um so just wanted to bring that up again before we placed the order. Uh they will hold this they quoted us last
079year or this spring I think they will still hold us to 13 $13,516.96 of that. What does that include all together? That's the flooring. Complete flooring. We actually have screws left over from when we did the uh batting cage. Oh, the Okay. The batting cage and a screw gun. Yeah. Yeah. So, that is just material. That is just material. And we're going to do install. We would do an instinct. And then what about um what goes over the top of it? Is it just paint? Um again there's options but leave it as is because it comes uh a very dark material. Okay or we can paint. So yeah paint would be on top dark black dark and brown darkest brown. It's almost like looks like a masonite almost a composite that it's masonite on both
080sides of a plywood sandwich material. It's very hard very slick. So maybe doesn't need even to cover again. I mean if it doesn't it's better to worry about it that should How old is the burn? Nobody nobody we're finding a lot of things we just don't know. Nobody knows it's pretty old. Yeah. So I mean it's held up fairly well, you know. So underneath of it is maple, right? I remember the piece the original lab which you know this is this product is made specifically for stages so it's a stage you know theatrical stages and it sounds like that hard material on top to wear rather than just like avoided paint rolling things on it is recommended let's say you Mr. Well, I know that's been a point of contention in the last couple years
081about the deterioration of the floor up there. And I know Richards did try some repairs which I think alleviated some of those issues. However, it's not the same wasn't same material. No, just regular plywood. Uh, it was a it was a hardened, you know, a hardened board, but it was not the same as what was on there. So, I think that has held up pretty well. I know it's on kind of off stage, so probably doesn't get a whole lot of foot traffic, but I think it definitely was better than the splender with that. Yes, somebody did a repair. We we did did a repair of somebody else's repair because that repair was done. Yeah. Which was the cause of the splintering. I mean, for the use that that stage sees every year. This had
082what two big concerts last week. There were some before that and you have the school play and everything else going on up there. It's I I think that it's worth going forward and replacing it and hopefully we get 20 30 years out of it and they'll be like when did they replace well that's where you put spray paint on the floor put new stuff on. So I guess just look for recommendation to the full board. Okay. Great. And you'll have the device number. Yeah. Yeah. I'll go back and confirm with them if we can't get it ordered. Uh they have have a shipment coming. I don't know if they do quarterly shipments or uh every other month shipments that's coming with Richville. I guess they bought several other companies. Yeah. Is this the industrial and
083then they have a place in Allentown as well that they okay I guess the codings yes you did talk about high school sex you yes okay just uh Dr. Mars, could you that first or the the one that says entrance feing second capital? Yes, capital coding. Uh, third one. Third. Next one down. Next one down. Fourth bullet point. Capital coding. Fourth. Yeah, it's a strong entrance. It was third capital building coding. I'm sorry. I just wanted to show. So this was some things that um actually this started out this was a ask I meet with all the principles trying to come up with you know looking at summer projects and stuff and this was a project asked from Dr. Flicker. So the front uh has a rust around the main entrance can see that there
084we go. Yep. So we got the railings. The railings aren't too bad. Scroll down, Dr. Myers, on that one. Yeah, those posts. Scroll down more, please. You know, pretty rusted down the bottoms there. Um, so this was where it started. Uh, capital codings. I got got them to look at doing this job and then that went into the back as the other other job. So they quoted us for that uh $9,73 uh for the entire cleaning up all those posts, painting the railing and the posts and all other That's just surface rust. It's not like structural. Well, I'm I'm I did not start to chip away on those. I'm willing that that a lot of that's from the ice and absolutely absolutely. What What are we using? Are we using salt or uh That's a
085uh calcium. Okay. If they put like plastic boots around the bottom, that would prevent or would it just seep underneath those? probably do some other it's on this picture says bases problem is it's rusting underneath concrete it's underneath there it's already there so this is more of a you know potentially temporary we do have a a painting crew I was really just using this as kind of a a baseline to see where we you know where we get outside firm to look at this. I personally think we could do this ourselves. It's a, you know, a tackle. We have some Paris that work with us over the summer. Uh, they do a very good job of painting and uh I think we could handle this ourselves for $9,000. Uh, I was looking in today about
086running a sand blaster or media blaster to get those down there. We've done railings before as well. So, uh I think we can tackle this ourselves, but I just wanted to bring it to facilities committee to show you what we're looking at for the summit project since this was a request by Dr. Flicker and it's something that should be addressed because if we don't address it, it's just going to continue. Okay. Of course, and I mean if we can do it in house, yeah, I say let's do it. And then the other two since capital codings they've done a couple jobs for us. They they helped us out with the art room. Um and also did they're the ones who did the roof repair. Yeah. So u they actually were looking at doing the uh
087stairs and then also the loading dock that was under previous construction that they've done skim coats. Dr. Mars, could you bring up uh one of those? So this is where they've done the previous contractor during one of the renovations has done a skim coat on the loading dock. This is the loading dock. Scroll up a little bit please. Okay. There we go. No problem. So that's where previous uh handrailing was. You can kind of see it's all chipping away. And that's throughout the loading dock. That's looking down at it. Uh some something similar. That's the face of the loading dock where they skim coated. It's coming off. The same thing is at the front steps, but this is looking at two separate projects. The loading project, um they quoted us $7,752 for that area. And
088then the front stairs, which is a little bit more because there's part of sidewalk that's uh included with a repair. Again, all these are just getting worse. Nothing is I think unsafe. Nothing is structural, but again, it's just numbers show where we're at. You could pull up the front steps in stock. That's front again under right underneath. And then so you can see where they skim coated and skim coat's been coming off in pieces. This is where the sidewalk is cracked. That's been additioned there on that. Again, none of these are made. I believe even that isn't really causing a trip out. There's not a lot of walking traffic there, but and it's not going to stop. It's going to continue to chip away every year. is is mostly like just for the looks of
089it. Does it actually serve like an additional purpose? It could serve a leveling okay leveling service if you have a really big like chunk. But I believe it's both. I would say it's both. Uh I think what this is is the same contractor who did the cafeteria. So we ran into the same issues if you remember back to the cafeteria problem that we had. Uh you know that was a little bit more enhanced because that we actually on top of that we had the tile the tile just kept coming up. So this at least is out in the open. uh we would be they're looking to use the same product brand hardex for repair which is I think a highly recommended concrete or actually finish all that. So again just showing you know again looking
090at summer that those windows that we have to do summer work um so don't need to do any of these projects right now but again wanted to show and put the numbers together with them. So, if you if you take a look at both of those projects, uh you know, they're a little under $30,000 for both the concrete repairs at the loading dock and the front front entrance. I would just I'd be less inclined to want to do anything on the floating dock just because it's a working dock. I don't know how nice that has to look if it's not a structural issue. The steps, I don't know. I haven't really taken a good look at them to see like how bad they are other than those couple pictures. But if you're saying it's you
091don't think it's a safety issue. I do not believe it's a safety issue. Uh you know it's basically all the bottom step again it's not going to get better. Right. So again I think this is something we can push off but again I just wanted to bring it bring it here so we can at least discuss it. Okay, I'm I'm fine with pushing it pushing it on, but you know, again, get your crew out to chip away anything that's loose at least, you know. So, I think I've said this before with my coatings background. That's 99% of the time it's background. And that's exactly what it was that 100 100% agree. But this doesn't adhere good and then it chips off super easy. This Artex that they're wanting to use, it has a prep material
092you put on first. It's almost like adhesion promoter and then you put the RX the skin coat down. And I've I've used this RX many times and it holds up very well especially, you know, I've used a lot of industrial settings and holds up. Yeah, I would say path I think the most abuse that that probably takes is shoveling or if we even shovel I don't know maybe we use something else to clear the sidewalk. Yeah, I mean the stairs have to be even that would be not very much a roof. In fact, kind of see where I just think in general, I mean, in in budget deficit years, we don't do things like this. This is a nice to have. It'll be great to have a better kind of see in this in this
093picture. Two different colors. I just want to again bring it up. I don't like to let anything slide. I'm in the same boat as or I agree with Dennis. Thank you. That's got to be low on time for summary. Yeah, we don't really have any updated information on timeline for the middle school projects that you do last my meeting is we're going to meet next week. Uh the gentleman project manager will be here for the first time. It won't be Chris. Chris will be bringing him. Chris uh McKissik from the floor who helped us with our last project. He's uh bringing and uh we'll meet next week to go over that day by day and looking at the window and they'll calculate how many days I be here and all that. Thursday, BCU is holding
094a recruiting event for drivers up in the middle school comments. But in addition, from a facility standpoint, they're meeting with their team to look at where the bus will be housed up in the middle school parking lot doing the bus. How many buses total? Uh full buses we're looking at 15 right now 15 17 something in that range. Yeah, we're trying to get get we're optimistic we might be able to eliminate one of those runways just efficiencies but you know it'll be full out on that far end down manor side parking lot but the outside of the the visual of it school buses it doesn't I mean how many times that get used the chasma dinner I was just going to say fair like other than that that maybe you're rolling down to the high
095school for those well that's what we talked about like you can just move them to another park now this summer might be a little tribute the project and Quztown Burough has some streets projects going on right around the school. So might be hardly maneuvering around for the summer but from a visual standpoint. It's a school. So it's okay. They couldn't fit with the college parking at the fairs like Ash did. Yeah, we I mean this is part of our conversation with them all, you know, very happy. And that's where the coordinator's going to be able right the middle school. That's the plan. We're going to look at the different spaces. Um like most very likely I mean our current target is that outdoor that outside office. Um they love that because you know they the
096drivers don't office. I say outdoor it only has an external outdoor. Um it was designed as the cafeteria manager's office and it's only exterior entry. Um it's there's some cons to it. You have to you have to go outside to get inside and go to a restaurant, but other than that it's isolated. So it would have some time in there. So that's our target. If not, we have some other space. We have it. Sounds good. The meeting