001Judy, can you take the role when you're ready? Broom here. Donald's Carpenter. I am here. I do apologize. I have to step out for a few minutes at uh around 7:40 to take a little league team pictures in the middle school cafeteria as I coach a team, but I will return as soon as I can. Here, Mrs. Vivian Deco here. Dr. Laurel Ericson Parsons here. Mrs. Tracy Magnado here. Dr. Shine Pax, I'm present. Mr. J. Santos, Mr. uh board president, Mr. Cedric Demmer, here. Eight present, one absent. Thank you. Can I get a motion to approve the agenda? So moved. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. The motion's approved. We had an executive session today to discuss personnel. Can I get a motion to approve the minutes from April 8th?
002So moved. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion's approved. We have recognition tonight of three of our very special students. um who is going to be the master of ceremonies for the presentation. Uh I believe that Mr. Fry is going to handle that. But for our first um recognition, Mrs. Sakasitz, I believe, is going to come and say a few words. Okay. We're going to honor Ryan Paxad who placed first in districts for tenor one. Uh let me just tell you a little bit about districts. So first you have to audition for districts. And if you came to our Christmas concert, you heard our song because we sung it there. And there's seven counties in our district. He placed first to go on to regionals. Now when you get to regionals,
003you have to reaw audition. Um and that's 15 counties in our region. When he reawitioned I think did you get six then for regions? Yes. First in the district, sixth in the region. And then when he got to states, which is all six all 67 counties because it's like the whole state, he placed first. This is I think this is the first time in Sen Valley history that we've had a first place placement at states. This is a huge deal for our department and a huge deal personally for Ryan. So he had to learn all of this music on his own and with me because when you go to the festival, you rehearse all of the music but not the pieces that are going to be used for the audition. So he had to learn
004a massive amount of music in a very small amount of time. And the music is very complicated. It's professional level and college level. One of the pieces that we had to learn wasn't even like all the time in traditional notation. It would just randomly go into a chant notation that's not even used anymore. It was such incredibly hard music and like in addition to him being in states on that Wednesday he came to school. He went to school all day. Then he practiced for the musical. I took him up to the Poconos. We had a meeting until 10 at night. Then all of Thursday and Friday he had rehearsal all day. He had a concert Saturday. Then he came back and performed in the musical on Saturday and Sunday and was amazing. So congratulations. Uh
005next year since he's next year, our goal is to be first in the region. I'm glad he wasn't first and everything. So we like have a goal for next year. I already gave him the music. We're already we're already moving on to next year. So congratulations. You're amazing. Mr. Fry, before you start, Mrs. Sacasitets, I just want to say thank you on behalf of the district and you have advocated for Ryan in a very difficult situation. And so for those of you who don't know, and I'm going to embarrass Ryan and his parents that are clearly both here, um there was a scheduling snafu that the theater production and the uh competition that Ryan had to attend were on the same date. So Ryan, on behalf of the district, I want to apologize to you
006because that shouldn't have happened. And Mrs. Sacas did a phenomenal job trying to advocate for you to ensure that you could somehow do something and she went right to the top with PMEA and I appreciate that as well. Lauren, um you handled yourself with amazing grace and maturity regarding the situation that took place. So on behalf of the district, we apologize and we thank you for demonstrating that. Um and Mrs. Access again, thank you very much for all you're advocating for Ryan and for your students. So, congratulations again. Uh, we would also take like to take the time to congratulate um our Skills USA medalists that moved on to the uh Pennsylvania state competition and uh did an outstanding job there and meddled. I know I don't believe George Lookingville is here this evening. Um,
007but he uh went to the state competition, was a silver medalist in auto tech. So, congratulations to George on your silver medal out of states. Next, we have Jacob Kelly. And Jacob, if you'd come on up. Um, Jacob did an outstanding job out at Skills USA at state level. Uh, he competed in plumbing uh and was a Pennsylvania state champion gold medalist out there and will move on to the next level in the national competition. So, congratulations to Jacob and good luck at nationals. Thank you. And and all all three of you students are are um have achieved something amazing and and uh will be remembered for a long time. Congratulations to you. I I wanted to also u echo that I um one of the things that um you know really I mean these
008are actually really huge uh achievements and um I I love the way that they're they're in a lot of different areas and that they they kind of um I mean what incredible advertisements for for the school district. Um but uh these are significant achievements and I'm just really really um you know proud to know you all. So thank you very much for for all that you guys have done. Okay, moving on. Um we have no presentation tonight. Um we're up to our high school SGA representative. You're up, Zoe. Um, good evening everyone. I'm Zoe and this is the student activities report for the high school. As of today, Tuesday, April 22nd, 2025. So for music, theater, and arts, the Sen Valley indoor percussion ensemble is preparing for their first ever chapter championships at Parkland High
009School this Saturday, April 26th. Next week, they will travel and participate in the East Coast Championships in Wildwood, New Jersey. We wish them well as they finish out their first ever season. The High School Jazz Band will perform in their final festival of the season on Saturday, April 26th at Eastston High School. Congratulations to the cast and crew of the Adams family. Our spring musical ran from Thursday, April 10th to Sunday, April 13th, and our students put on four outstanding performances. I saw it. It was really good. Um, the choirs 5 through 12 are singing the national anthem tomorrow night at the Iron Pigs game. The high school choir is performing at the nursing home next Tuesday and they are so happy to be back out and doing community outreach. Um, we are busy upstairs
010and downstairs getting ready for the choir concert on May 15th. There's lots of great music, sacred, secular, Turkish, and wicked. There's something for everyone. On to sports. Each year, the PWCA selects an all-American team of student athletes to excel both on the mat and academically. Students are honored by the being selected for the first team, second team, and honorable mention. Congratulations to the following wrestlers on being selected to this year's Pennsylvania Wrestling Coaches Association all academic team. All GPA listed are weighted or unweed, sorry. First team is Cole Hubert with a 4.0 and a career record of six 164 to 46. Second team is Carter Chunka with a 3.8 GPA with a career record of 63 to 14. Third team is Aiden Grog with a 3.7 GPA, career record of 154 to 38, and honorable
011mention Jackson Albert with a 3.41 GPA with a career record of 152 to 45. Congratulations to these student athletes that achieved recognition for their work in the classroom and on the wrestling mats. In other news, this weekend, Carter Trunko will be flying to Las Vegas and competing with some of the best high school and college wrestlers in the country at the U20 World Team Trials. Currently ranked number 18 nationally in his weight class, Carter will be going up multiple weights and wrestle for a chance to be one of our age level world team representatives. We wanted to wish Carter the best of luck as he represents Saka Valley at the national level. Also non- included talk about it. Today was boys tennis districts. Um Devin Pandy won both of his matches and will be competing
012again on Thursday. Um Lewis Flowers won one match and um Alex Morowski pushed hard but he did not make it to the next level. And then on to clubs. The high school environ placed first in the Northampton County competition on April 17th. It will now move on to the state competition in Windber, PA on May 21st. Team members include captains Ston Goodudian forestry, Jacob Norwood in wildlife, Ryan Paxad in soils, N Gudian in aquatics, and Kyle Chi for current issues, and adviser is Kimberly Mertz. SVHs debate team will officially finish the 2024 to 2025 competition season on Thursday at Palisades High School. Special thanks to our semi-finalist Helen Cox, John Murphy, Lucy Norwood, Nitia Thakar, Steven Valtran, and Violet Whitley who tyrously prepared for nine total debates at Wilson High School, Northwestern Lehigh, and Cutstown
013High School. Although Sakin did not make it into the debate championship, will recognize seniors and bring home our runner-up trophy from the regular season. This year's nine graduating seniors are Daniel H, Yashri, Javia, Yasmine Lon, Jerry Lynn, Paulie Helitzis, John Murphy, Lucy Norwood, Steven Vron, and Emma Zeers. The reading team had their annual competition at Eastston Area High School on Thursday, April 10th. We placed fourth overall and only missed third place by one point. They did a great job and had a lot of fun. Competing members were Luke McGlaughlin, Siana Mallet, Janiah Welsh, Hannah Arseny, Eddie Webb, Jadiah Welsh, oh yeah, and Ally Green, sorry. Members who were a big part of the club all year but could not attend the competition were Mattie Janice, Roberto Servthornne, Alex Morowski, Ryan Paxad, and Aspen Roberts. We
014are already looking forward to the next year. The list of books for next year will be out soon, and members can check them out over the summer. This wraps up the student activities report. Are there any questions? Huh? Who's giving? My sister. Yeah. I thought you were training the next uh generation of uh Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone will compare. So, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Thank you. So, thank you. You have a good night. Okay. Superintendent's report. Miss Felicity. Thank you, Mr. Demar. just have two uh brief announcements. First, we have the first of our marquees up. Uh if you've noticed on campus um over by our elementary school is the first one and they have just uh started to pour the cement for the uh second marquee on the other side of campus
015and hopefully in the next week everything will be completed. Fingers crossed. So, it looks good so far. So, we're very happy. Um, and secondly, I just wanted to wish all of our admin professionals an early happy admin professional day, which is tomorrow. Um, so as you know, we have quite a few in the district and all of the administrators and people in the schools and offices probably wouldn't know what to do without you. So we uh wish you the very best and hope that you have a great day, funfilled gifts and awe from all of us. So that will I just have to say it's concrete. It's not cement. Cement is the Indian. I said that purposely for the business manager because we had a big debate about concrete and cement and which contains stones
016and gravel and what have you. So, thank you though. I was right in the argument. I just said it on purpose. So, thank you. Um, courtesy of the floor to visitors, agenda items only. Would anyone like to speak? Seeing no one, uh, can I get a motion for the presentation of the bills? So move. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Opposed? The motion's approved. Can I get a motion to approve the treasures report? Move. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Motion's approved. on to education. Uh we have one item um the memorandum of understanding with ESSA. Can I get a motion? Move. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion's approved. On to personnel. We have five items. Um, unless anyone would like one
017considered separately, we'll do them together. I'll read through them and then ask for a motion. Item number one, 2024 2025 district dayto-day substitute. Item two, 2024 2025 dedicated substitute teacher. Item three, 2024 2025 athletic coaches. Item four, resignation. And item five, summer IEP writer. Can I get a motion? So moved. Second. Any discussion? I I I just want to note uh the uh resignation of uh Mrs. uh Humphre. I have known her for uh many many years. I know she's uh been a very dedicated uh person in the elementary school. I I'm sad to see she's uh leaving. I'm sure she's uh leaving Sen for some uh better, bigger opportunities, but I just wanted to take this uh chance to uh to say thank you for uh all she's done here for our school and
018for our kids. Can I get I mean all in favor say I. I opposed. The motion's approved. Um facilities, we have one item, surplus obsolete items. Can I get a motion? Move. Second. All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. The motion's approved. On to finance. We have a finance uh committee meeting summary in the packet. Uh and then um Mr. Bonenburgger is going to give us a presentation on uh the 2025 2026 budget. Mr. Bondberger. Thank you. Uh just gave everybody the Excel file I sent out uh before the weekend. So you have the detail of the budget. Um this will just be an overview of where the increases are within the budget and be happy to answer any questions as you're looking into the Excel file questions of the detail. Um so um
019what's on the screen and what's in front of you that's a four-year look as to what our expenditures uh have looked like um actual to budget. Um last year if you recall uh we had a shortfall of about 1.1 million. We raised taxes to generate 340,000 in uh revenue from a tax increase and then we took are taking 807,000 out of uh fund balance for that year. Um we I have in the actual expenditures as of April 2nd at this point um showing that as to date we spent 38 million and we've received uh 45 million um to date in our budget. the 2526 budget, we're looking at a $60 million uh expenditure, which is a 10.47% increase from last year to this year, and our revenue is only generating around 55 million at this
020point. So, it's showing about $5 million deficit. Now, I will say, and that's later on, too, but part of that is the $2.6 million for the VOTE project. So if you take that out um at finance committee we discussed instead of financing that taking that out of our fund balance and paying that um directly um not incurring more debt and interest on that. So really you're about 2.5 at this point in time if you take that 2.6 out of that number and just consider that's coming out of fund balance. So, what would be the percentage increase year-over-year if you just consider basically the uh if we get rid of that, we're looking like a 5% increase for that? About 5%. And uh I'm I'm I'm assuming that you're going to go over the uh more
021details about this, right? Okay. So, then I have for you the um looking at each one of the summaries for the salaries, the objects. What we like to look at is the the groupings of the objects 100s 200 benefits. So the 100s we're looking at for next year it's uh overall salaries is $23 million and it's about a $657,000 increase. That's for we have contracts in place for um the professional staff, the support staff, custodial maintenance, transportation, and then we have five other contracts that are up um this year um that we have uh in the process of meet and discuss with those groups. So, we're estimating for next year about $657,000 increase in salaries. The benefits section, it's around 16 million uh for the benefits. It's about 1.9 million increase. Um the majority of
022that is our health benefits. As we talked about in our finance committee, right now our health benefits are running around 137% higher than what they were the previous year. If you recall last year, uh when the broker came, we were doing about a million dollars to the good last year. Um we're not doing so well this year at this point. Um so we're um running about 1.6 six is the increase just for health benefits. Uh I met with the broker today. We're actually shopping out. She's sent out to about 40 different stop-loss carriers to see uh if we can get better pricing. Um I'm hoping by May 13th if I have some better news uh to share with the board. So the the numbers that you have up there and ones that are here uh
023in the sheets that you're looking at are different. the salary increases. Uh, you know, on this it says $657,000 more. There you have Why did that one? I just wanted to know which one is correct. The one that's on the sheet is correct. I don't know why the one that I sent that to Mike. Mike, can I send another one to you? You're saying the one that's on the screen is correct? The one on the screen is not correct. one in your paper is correct. I don't know why when I shared it that one came to them. It's okay. We can just look at the look at what we have in front of us. I just wanted to know whether I should be paying attention to this or or that. No, you should be paying
024attention to yours. I don't know why the one that I shared is not the right one. It's I mean I'm looking at the presentation on my my computer. That's the one I sent him. Yeah, this is the one that I this is the one I shared with you. So, should I reshare that to the SV media? [Music] Yeah. No, it's wrong. So, you want me to reshare then? Yeah, it was media. S media. I mean, that's what I have open. Yep, that's the one. Sorry about that. Okay, now we're on the same page. Thank you, Dr. Paxton. So, um, again, health benefits, majority of that increase is the 1.6 for the health benefits. Um we're continuing to look at that and um again the broker has sent out to about 40 different um um stop-loss
025carriers to see if we can get better pricing for for that. Uh can I ask a question? The the increases is is okay. Are we sure? Sure. No. Um the increases in the salary [Music] um that includes the um the the contracts, right? the that includes the two contracts that are currently in existence um for the professionals and the support staff. And then it includes an estimate for the other five agreements and and that and and the the teachers contract was negotiated in um the it was it was the spring it was two years ago, right? So we're we're seeing these increases are are things that were some of this was has been decided for a long time basically you know um there's a kind of um I just think it's important to point that
026out that you know how how long is the contract signed for there's two more years on the teachers contract one more year on the support contract that that contract has a reasonably flat increase every year it's about this every single year it increases about this amount that's right thank you the other um minor increases, retirement, um the rate went from 33.9% um to 30. Just I I I thought Mr. Brun is going to ask you about the uh benefit increase also. Sorry, I missed my Sorry. To just to jump ahead. So uh uh that number is it u uh both the amount of reinsurance that uh the district is purchasing and an estimate for the uh for for the actual healthcare costs or is it uh that that reinsurance thing is sort of like happening
027you know at a later uh slide. it it's what's causing it is the claims are causing it plus um the cost of the stop loss that we have currently. So do do you remember what the cost of the stop loss is? I think the stop loss was probably close to a million dollars with with what it was when we talked about at the finance meeting. Yeah. And and and and the total for for health care cost is like $5 million. Um their projection for next year is $7.1 million. 7.1. So this was like this is a lot of increase. It was 7.1 from again the year before it was about 5 million. Um but as you recall at that meeting we talked about it was running a million dollars to the good that year. Um
028but they were projecting that for this year was not going to run as well as in 2324. But this is the when when you say $7 million 7 million is not the health care cost. It's the healthare cost plus this min healthare cost plus admin fee plus yeah stop-loss fees all together it's bundled together. So compared with a couple of years ago uh did that number increase a lot the I'm talking about specifically about the stop loss. Yes because our we went with a lower deductible to get reimbured plus it um also for the for the to get more money back based on that. But unfortunately, our claims are running a lot higher at this point. So the potential of us getting money back is part of the issue. We may not see any return
029on that that money because of our claims being so high. And these uh shopping that you said uh they are doing on on our behalf. Uh where are they going? What is the market for that? Uh I just don't know anything about you know how how that shop. Yeah. and that's other insurance companies that they're going out to. They have 40 different companies they have sent out uh inquiries as to if they're interested in it. The problem can be is since we are having a bad year is finding somebody. I mean, and also looking at um taking on more of a risk on our part instead of having a $85,000 deductible. In the past, we had like a 225. The problem with the 225 is we're such a small district that for them the margin
030of premium for them is not that great. So, I don't know if I'll be able to get 225 again. Maybe I can get 100 to bring down the cost 150. Um, but um the other issue is the stop loss you have currently there's no lasers. So, what happens is if you have a claim currently um that's running high, next year they say, "Okay, the potential is going to be there." They basically carve that out and say, "We'll only cover up to a certain amount. You'll need to pay anything over and above that." um more than likely we won't be able to get that laser um exclusion that we're probably going to have lasers happen. Yeah. So lasers were not in our benefit, right? We want to get rid of lasers, right? We we want Right.
031We want Well, we want that they don't laser things out. That they cover it regardless is what we is what we do want. Currently now in the stop loss, they cover it regardless. So if you have high claim, they don't carve it out and say you're responsible. will only pay up to this amount. You're responsible for the rest of it. They cover the whole amount because of our claims, because of what's going on, we may be back in the situation where we had before where if we have a high claim, which you know, most of the time the ones we've had before, they didn't come to fruition. They lasered it out and said, "Okay, you're responsible for this." Luckily, that didn't happen. But there is that chance, a 50-50 chance that if they do laser
032a claim out that then the district would be responsible for that. Yeah, this is the my my kind of like and I've shared that with with with you and others here before is that I I just don't understand a uh kind of like 20% premium for insurance. That sort of like sounds pretty ridiculous to me. That's uh prepayment. It's not insurance and it's not even prepayment if uh the chances of sort of like recovering it is so low that uh you know after five years you won't be recovering it. If if that's the case, then uh we should just not do it. Uh and that's uh more than a million dollars of saving. This is money that we pay. We get nothing in in in return. And uh what it protects us is for uh
033claims that are uh really high. But uh you pay a million dollar to uh reduce the chance of uh potentially you know uh I don't know a case happening where uh the cost for somebody is uh $800,000 and that million dollar policy would pay for that. So it's it's it's kind of like it sounds like you know you you're you're buying a car and then uh your insurance is uh you know I don't know four years five years of insurance you can you can replace the car. That's not insurance. That's uh uh and this this sort of like is very foreign to me. I don't understand it. I've never understood it. When when the cost was low, when the cost was a few years ago, it was like $200,000 for uh uh for the for
034the reinsurance. That was that was fine. I I still didn't understand it, but uh it was at least sort of like in a uh more reasonable range. We are at a place where uh that is uh uh uh a fifth of our uh healthcare cost and uh I I just want to you know ask everybody to kind of like think about that uh whether we want to move forward with that model if uh if you are not able to get something that is u you know more reasonable when you shop around. Uh J mean can I ask you something? Sure. What would be the alternative like what what would we what would an alternative look like? Yeah. So so so here's the thing. We are self-insured which means that people go uh use healthcare and
035uh the district pays out of pocket. So this uh uh uh reinsurance says that if the cost of uh one person's insurance in a year runs above a certain limit then uh uh you stop paying. So basically you pay up to a certain amount as you as a district pay up to a certain amount and beyond that this insurance will pay for that right. So uh let's say and I don't know what I think the number that uh Mr. Boner was talking about is $100,000. So if someone's cost healthcare cost over a year is uh 50k the district pays. If the cost over a year is 90k the district pays. But if the cost goes to 120K, then the district pays 100K and the 20K comes from the insurance. Now, for that marginal uh benefit,
036we pay a million dollars a year and uh how many of those uh catastrophic cases did we have this year? Probably none. You don't have you have right now you have um four people that are over it's 85,000. You have four people over it. The unfortunate thing is because of it's a pool with this plan is and our benefits, we're running more than 115% of our claims. So therefore, if our claims come down, we could potentially get reimbursed part of it. But the problem is we're not getting reimbursed because of our claim. Just just answer my question, you know, simple question, simple answer. So how many people uh do we have here now? How much money are we getting back as a result of the million dollar premium that we pay this year? As I
037said, none right now. None. Right. So, we pay a million dollars. And so, how many of them did we have last year? Last year, we didn't have any because we're running We didn't have any. We're a million dollars for last year. So, so that's the pattern which is that year after year after year, you pay 20% of your total cost in insurance and you don't recover anything. Right now compare this with uh other cases. You have a you have a house for your uh house. You have a homeowner's insurance. The cost of that is in the order of uh less than 1% of your the the value of your house, right? So your house is I don't know like $200,000 and the homeowners insurance is $700 something like that. And that covers you for all
038these sort of like catastrophic cases and you know many many years you don't have anything and hopefully you will never need to use it but uh you pay uh I don't know half a percent for the sort of like peace of mind if uh you know god forbids a a fire happens or a uh you know trees in the roof of your house and what now just imagine if you were doing 20% uh insurance for your $200,000 uh house that would be 40k K a year, right? And my point is that if you are giving 40k a year to a insurance, you might as well just uh keep that money in a uh separate account in the unlikely case that uh you know a fire happened. I mean four years if you just save on
039your premium, you're going to cover recover the the the total loss. Well, the so if if what would like again what would an alternative be in in terms of what we did here to take that into consideration like what yeah the alternative is a decision right decision about you know what you are going to do with the risk right so I mean right now I think we have three options one is to go along with what we've been doing pay 20% premium the second option is to say which is what Mr. Bonenburgger is doing which is go around and try to shop uh a better uh plan, better insurance plan. And the third option is uh to say hey you know what this market is uh not really sort of like the market that is
040appropriate for our case. So uh we are not going to buy that reinsurance. We are going to basically take the risk considering the fact that we are paying 20% of the cost uh on an annual basis uh uh without really kind of like using it. So what what do you think is the best? Uh I I I'm just I'm just frustrated with the fact that uh uh that uh that that the majority of the increases that we've had for uh uh for for for our health care costs has not been as a result of people actually using more healthcare, right? Small amount of that has been that and the majority of it has been just basically this administrative and reinsurance uh fee that uh we paid. The amount is not small amount right as you
041see these are sort of like you know a a good amount of what what we spend annually and you know you can either leave that money in the pockets of taxpayers or use that for other uh uh things that the school is uh you know supposed to do it just like this kind of like looks to me like a not a good deal but uh again I I I don't thank you for Dave how much the actual premium of million dollars Yeah. More than a million dollars. Yeah. More than a million. It's It's about a million. Yeah. Okay. Well, with the potential of getting again the potential was that you were to get money back to offset the cost of that. Um the other end of it is and I know what he's saying about
042keeping the money and yes, it's a risk, but you could have two $3 million claims. You could have none. But that's that's the other issue. And once you drop it, trying to shop back and get into it is even harder. But I understand your point, Dr. Pax. I think it's worth going to the market to see what else is out there to see if we can save some money on that premium, especially if we have a bad year again next year and we start getting into really bad claims that will cost the district. Sorry. What would be the timeline for going to the market? And they're out. They're already they're shopping it already. I'm I'm hoping we we pushed a tight deadline. Um we want to try and get something back by May 9th. Um
043that's our hope. Um again, it's a tight deadline. So I'm hoping by the 13th by our next board meeting, I have some kind of news as to where we are with that. And how much risk are we putting ourselves up? I mean, if and I hate to use the point of house burning because we've had so much of that recently, but there's a finite cost to that and a finite like a medical claim is virtually unlimited, right? Yeah. You could I mean, you could have a catastrophic I mean, there's been $3 million claims. I mean, you know, but have we had one? I don't have any wood to knock on, but knock on wood, no, we have not had any. So I mean but you know there's always that there are districts that have had
044it. Luckily we have not but again it's it's do you take the risk on or do you ensure just like your house or anything else but did you say Mrs. Demco if I may uh sort of like give some feedback to what you're saying. You're absolutely right about uh the exposure on the other side of it. There is a point and maybe I should have said that as one of the options to uh Mr. Brun when he asked what are the options? One of the other options is to be fully insured which means that uh to say we're going to be get getting out of the business of uh trying to uh self-insuring and uh you know saying that everybody goes to uh I don't blue cross or uh this or that and we pay
045a premium that is appropriate uh for the size and the pool and so forth and uh you'll be done with it. uh this this this option of uh self-insuring has been an attractive option for the past I don't know 20 years here or maybe longer than that and uh a lot of other institutions of our size and definitely bigger have gone into that model because the this reinsurance for catastrophe case catastrophic cases has been a reasonable market uh unfortunately last year I don't know what happened with that guy Justin or whatever the was who was here and I think these guys sort of like took over that company and uh we somehow kind of like got stuck with them and uh now we are finding ourselves in you know on the on the on the
046sort of like wrong side of this uh uh uh this uh this this increase and it's just uh uh I I I just wanted to acknowledge that I fully understand and appreciate your your point. You're you're absolutely correct. They they can we do anything that's um going with a higher deductible? Yeah. Well, that's what we're looking at. We're looking at what they will allow us. Again, the problem being the size of us. If we I don't think I can get 225 again. They'll look at the size of us. They'll look at the premium and say there's not there's not enough there for them. I mean, if I can get 150, whatever. I mean, I'm trying to push it as high as they'll allow me to go. Um not the 85 we're currently at. I'm comfortable
047taking the risk on that end with the deductible. The other thing is you could get rid of the aggregate, but that's very minimal cost for the aggregate on top of that. So, um, but that's what we're looking at all those options. Do we know what the cost is to be fully insured versus self-insured? The fully insured has been more. The problem is, as your point and Dr. Pax's point, this is actually more looking like fully insured. what this plan is now that we're in, it's looking more like fully insured because it doesn't matter our claim experience, the rates, they set them, they set the rates. The cons, that's the concern I have is um you know, they're not taken into account, which we were always able to do self-insured, is when your claims are down
048and people get healthy and there's a high claim that goes off, you can carve that out and say, "All right, I don't need to fund it to that level." Unfortunately, the way fully insured works and kind of this plan with Benon and their stop losses, they just add based on the trend of this is what you're doing, trending it forward. And I'm arguing that that's that's not a good comparison. All the years we've had, you know, good years and we're able to keep it low because of people rolling off the claims not happening. That's my concern. This looks more like a fully insured plan, not the self-funded plan that we've always been doing. Are there any consortiums that area school districts are in that This is actually a consortium. This is a consortium with other
049schools as to how it works. Uh again that's you know part of it and part of it is you're then helping pay for potentially other experience that people you know as they're like right now our claims are high I'm paying a flat rate so other schools are paying for my portion of it because so then there's the pool of dollars which is your stop loss that's going in and at the end then they true up and say okay this is how overall we did this is how everybody did now they cost share back to you based on that. The concern is right now we're not running well enough that we're probably going to get it. So if there's any time to get out of it, now's the time to get out of it because we're
050not going to lose out on that cost share back to us. And prior to us switching to this, what was the stop gap loss cost approximately? As Dr. Pax had said, it was like $200 and some thousand for the stop loss. Unfortunately though, that was not a viable option for us anymore because they were pushing back. Again, the point of the claims, not the claims, the cost that we were getting it for $225,000 deductible. They were like, "This is we're not making any money on something that you got such a high deductible, such a small pool of people." And they were starting to push back on what they were even offering us at that point. Thank you. Anything else? Okay. Uh before we go off this slide, um just to jump back up to salary
051that includes as well any new positions we're considering? Yes. Like kindergarten, Spanish immersion, assistant superintendent. Is there anything else out there that I'm not recalling? That's that's like new. That's it. No, that's it. Thank you. Unless you have something to add, Mrs. There are um new power positions. Oh, that's right. Power professional positions. Okay. Did we of that 657, how much of it is the cost of the contracts? Do you remember that? I'd have to go back and look. I don't remember that. Um so again majority is health benefits. Uh little bit for retirement uh the rate went up a minimal um and that's only obviously as salaries go up the retirement goes up but then on the other side for revenue we get half of that reimbured back. Same thing with the FICA. Um
052obviously salaries are going up. So our social security payment has increased. it's only about 44 and um again the net of that uh we get half of that back on the on the revenue side and then the remaining portion that's considered under the 200 for benefits is excuse me tuition reimbursement and other employees benefits which would be retirees uh portion that we're paying towards health benefits also. So that's about a 39,000 increase. The next area that we're looking at is the 300s, which is professional technical services. Um, this is money that is paid to our intermediate unit, IU 20 and 21, uh, special ed costs. Uh, we're seeing about $195,000 increase in that area for the programs that we're paying to the IU. Uh, and a program that we paid to the IU21. uh our
053other professional educational services, OTP, legal, auditing, we're actually seeing a reduction of about 143. Um security services, a slight decrease. And then professional educational services training u which is professional development about $67,000 increase in professional um educational development. The next category would be uh the 400 objects and that's contracted maintenance and we're actually seeing about an $843,000 reduction in there. Uh the biggest portion of that reduction is going to be because of the projects that um we did now about 1.2 or 1.4 million um this year and the projects that Jim has scheduled for next year is about 577,000. So, um, so that's majority of that decrease is in that area. Slight increase in his repairs and maintenance total, uh, obviously for buildings that are getting older. Uh, a little bit more money in there
054for repairs of of of the buildings. Next area is going to be our 500 which is uh a lot of that is your tuition to other schools, tuition to charter schools. Um transportation is included in that for IU uh and any outside uh carriers that we do for transportation. So that's about a $538,000 increase. Uh overall total budget there in those areas is8 about $8 million. um the increase in IU and field trips, extracurricular and also uh services that we pay to another agency for special ed transportation. Um because a lot of the transportation has been pushed back to us from our IU. Uh so that's about 192 almost $200,000 increase. Um slight increase in our liability workers comp uh premiums about 50,000 there. And then um the other big increase would be um tuition
055to charter schools. That's around 125. Uh as you see we have 101 cyber 78 charter schools. Um in my numbers though I am taking in account the reduction for the charter school special ed students. Um, so that's in in that calculation that we pay 8,000 less uh for those students that are in the cyber charter schools for special education that the governor passed last year. How about the governor's budget? It has additional uh sort of caps and uh limit for the Yeah. Um I have not heard much about his budget at this point. Um they public. Uhhuh. What do you mean it's public? I I know but I mean I haven't heard as it's going forward much. He presented it. I have not heard any much talk about it. There was a um our organization
056had a legislative meeting. Um what came out of that is legislator said you know we should have a budget by the end of July. That's it. I haven't heard much conversation as to where they are going with that. Um that was the cap where he was going to put the 10,000 in for for the regular ed students. um 10 or eight. It was I think he proposed 10. Maybe it was eight. It might have been eight. It was I think it was eight that he proposed. So, but they proposed that last year. Nothing happened with it last year. So, I'm not hearing anything more at this point from any organization as to where we are with that. That would save us about 500 $600,000, you know, if we if we they would do that. So,
057if if the governor's budget uh goes through, it's uh it it saves us about $600,000 just on that part of it. Yes. Um tuition and non-public uh schools, that's a slight increase of 104. That's kids that are placed out in um different institutions, Melmark, Hogan, U Bucks Academy. uh we have a slight decrease in our community college and then our votech is a little bit of increase of 68,000 um and travel and IU operations there's a slight decrease in there. The next area is going to be anything with supplies is a 600 area. So our supplies that are around the 610s that's 1.2 2 million. It's about a 72,000 increase. Um those are items, pens, paper, those are items for gym. Um as far as supplies for buses, uh equipment in the in the buildings,
058anything that's categorized under $5,000 would be considered a supply. So that's a wide range of items that are going into that category. U natural gas, you can see there's a slight increase in in natural gas. We do have a fixed price till 2026 of 2.869 per decathirm. Um so we are under three um at this point. And our electricity is a slight increase of 82,000 in our electricity um for next year. Diesel fuel um we got in with the bids. They're actually a little bit lower. And books and periodicals, you will see an increase in that. That's um mainly because of the uh new curriculum that you'll see. Uh that's part of that that would go into the books and supplies and fees for techreated u is also any kind of software or materials that
059were were for curriculum or for use in the buildings. Um ask a question of um um this may be something that um this I need to ask the superintendent if that's okay. Um it's helpful for me to have a sense of enrollment [Music] um that's sort of crosslisted with the the the the budget from year to year. Um but is are you able to even just informally could you characterize what enrollment has been in the district since um you know for the last five years or so? Like what has it been going is it been steady? Has been going down? Um I'm asking partly so the community can can hear this. Yeah, absolutely. The enrollment has been decreasing steadily. Yeah. So it's been declining. Yeah. Yeah. How how much is there? Like could you give
060us a rough? Um I don't I can't I mean the graduating class that we have had we probably have 60 kids less each year in the incoming kindergarten class. Thank you very much. Yeah. Absolutely. Thank you. Okay, the next areas would be the 700s which would be property uh capital equipment um additional replacement. Um the biggest chunk of that would be um vans. Three new vans and two new buses would be the equipment um at that point would be covered underneath the 700. So again, 700 is anything that's over $5,000 that would be capitalized, would be considered. Uh and that's that's going to be those items in that area under 800. Um that is our interest, bond interest, um dues and fees u which um would be for memberships. Uh slight increase there. Miscellaneous is
061slight increase of 2500. That includes our senior rebates uh was is in the miscellaneous number. And then student fees, you'll see a 43,000 increase. And the reason for that is it's a shift uh where everybody was budgeting for it. They were budgeting it up in the travel. Um and actually those are fees that students are were getting charged when they're going on those trips. So they needed to be moved and put into the student fees. So that's why there's that shift actually. So reduction in travel and an increase in that area. Um the last area would be the uh 900 which would be the capital which I kind of started off the meeting saying you have 3.9 3.8 in there for the um capital expenditures. Part of that is our debt payment but the biggest
062chunk of that is the 2.6 that would be for the votech expansion project. So if we pay that out of fund balance um that's what that amount would be give or take. They're still looking at those numbers and potentially adjusting them, but that's the the most current numbers we have at this point in time from them. That's a onetime thing, right? Correct. uh and uh uh will it all uh realize in the next uh fiscal year because the I mean phase one of it which is the cost of the purchase of the factory that uh I'm I'm assuming that uh that that will happen soon uh maybe even before the next fiscal year starts maybe at the beginning of it but do you expect and anticipate that the the other phase of it uh will
063also sort of like happen right after that. Yeah, they talked about at the meetings that the the first phase would probably be early October and then later on would be the second borrowing on their end that they would do in the same year. Um and then construction should start um during that because like a planning phase and design. But yes. So do do we have to make our contribution at the time that the borrowing happens or uh can we sort of like uh pay as we go in terms of uh when the expenses happen? No, my understanding is that when they do the borrowing they have to have our portion of it. Yeah. [Music] Next is the little look at the revenues just uh kind of some of the highlights. Um the local revenue is
064around 41 million. It's not that big of an increase only around 28 uh,000 increase. The real estate um we do are seeing assessed value increase of around um 4.16%. Um the problem is in last year if you recall we had some assessment appeals. Um, so we p put in those payments we were going to get this year about 800 some thousand in interims. Well, those obviously are coming out. They're now going into the but those were back payments that they they owed us for those years. So that's kind of netting out with the increase that we're getting in the assessed value and and the reduction in the in the interim. Um, the earned income tax I'm increasing at about 200,000. Um, I did take a look at where we at today and we're we were
065at 3 million last year. Today we're at 3 million this year. So we're we're running the same trend as to what EIT last year to this year is is at this point. It's it's not up. It's not down. It's around the same. Um and then we're getting a slight increase in in idea money, which is money that um goes towards uh employees that we have here under special ed that we cover their salaries with that. Um the state revenue based on the governor's proposal uh is around 496,000. We're getting increase. Uh part of that's basic ed about 130,000. Um I have in there and I'm hoping he does it if he doesn't do the $8,000. We're getting $156,000 this year to help with charter school. Um we're getting that this year. I budget that again
066for next year, but we'll have to see if that comes to fruition or if he does the funding of the reduction in the charter schools for the regular ed. Um slight increase in special ed about 64,000. Uh and then obviously social security uh slight increase and retirement again that's the half of the increase you're seeing on the other side for the expenditure, the reimbursement. And then the last item would be any federal money. And there are some slight increases um from what we're getting this year in federal dollars. Title one we're getting about 35,000 more. Title two about 2,000 and title four about $8,000 increase in those in those programs. So, at this point, if you would go to the index, um it would be you'd get around 1.4 million. Um you would still have
067a shortfall um in in the budget um at this point. Um uh if you take out the um 3.6, that's including the 2.6 six for the um BCH. Any other questions? Questions and uh comments. Um thank you very much. Is this okay, Cedric? Now, go ahead. And [Music] um I had written out in in all caps on the back of this and it was smelly because I used a Sharpie uh the word recession and uh and it is stinky. Um, and I don't mean to make light of it, but to me, looking at the economic horizon, um, that is really the number one thing that we should be thinking about right now because it it should guide our entire approach to what we're going to do in the next couple months. the the economic um
068I mean the experts and the not so experts the people from the deep state and from the shallow state you know if you average up their what they're saying about you know forecasting for the chances of recession it's about 50%. you know, um there's a pretty good chance and I did some research for, you know, um on past recessions and looked into some of the um the economics of recession when it comes to local municipalities. Um and it's not good. It's that's where the stink comes from. Um revenues go down. Um there's more intense demands for for fin on finances. uh it's not just less money coming in but there's more u the need to spend intensifies um locally uh it goes throughout the entire economy you know and um that I so I I
069think that um when I saw that figure of um that broke the for me at least the the 60 million mark um it's sort of a psychological barrier for me um you know I I I had to think, well, you know, we're just not we would be really irresponsible if we can't find a way to cut that down. Um um at the at the local level, you know, we can't go off the we have to be real, you know what I mean? We have to be honest with the our our residents. Um, we're, you know, we run for office and we have all these great, you know, slogans and, you know, uh, which I'm really proud of running for office, but now that you're we're here, I, you know, that the one thing that I've
070learned in the last year, um, and being on school board is that we we kind of are we all kind of think the same way pretty much because there's not that much that you can do in some in some ways. you know, you can do some things, but the levers are pretty there's only so much give that that they've got. You know, um people have to be paid. You know, uh school buses need to be repaired. Um you know, you can't just raise taxes as much as you want and um you can't even raise them a little bit sometimes without causing a lot of uh constipation. We don't have some big stash of money. Um I think everybody would agree there's not some p big pile of money we're sitting on top of. Um we
071have far less than what is recommended generally, you know. Um so I guess the thing is that right now I'm I'm going to be anxious to see what happens when we go out and look at the insurance plans. Um that to me is is that's a really big thing we got to find out. Um because uh right now um you know with the propo this proposal as it is now I definitely could not support it. You know I I would be there's no way we've got we we've got to go lower than this. Um um if I look at also I mean one thing that we that that we kind of gloss we didn't gloss over it's just we don't really talk about much. If you look at the uh David, I wonder if could
072you put up the very first slide that the one that shows the um the the the grid the Excel sheet I guess it's the second slide. So it one thing is if you look at the um where it says um millage increase um notice how there's nothing there for many years um unless I miss something. Um there, you know, this district has been really has a really good tradition of being pretty careful about tax increases, you know. Um and so there's not, you know, it's not like there's like tons of money just pouring in, you know. Um, and if I remember out of all the constrnation that we had last year about the what was a 1% tax increase, you know, the the amount of revenue that came in because of that, it's, you know,
073it's not that much, you know, it isn't much. And that was a lot to like, you know, we we had big arguments. I remember, you know, meeting with um Shamim at one point and having like a coffee that lasts for two hours trying to wrestle with this stuff, you know, um and it, you know, you would think that we would have brought in millions and millions of dollars with that 1%, you know, tax increase, but it's it's almost nothing. So, I'm just saying that we're we don't have a whole lot of choices. I I you know I'm definitely going to be hanging on what happens with this insurance thing. I you know we we got to get it down somehow. Um we're you know we're and the last thing I'll just say is that I
074have this big thing I was going to read but I' I've got it memorized now. It's like you know we can't cut curriculum. You know we've made some incredible righteous choices with curriculum. you know, we don't have we can't cut personnel, teaching personnel. Um, the administration staff that we have, it's bare bones. You know, we have a superintendent who's doing necessarily a lot of assistant superintendenting. So, we need, you know, she needs help. Um, I've heard grumble sometimes about, you know, why did we give the superintendent a raise? She's one of the lowest paid superintendents in the region. The lowest, you know, the lowest. We don't want to lose another superintendent, you know. So, that's why, you know, there was that's why she got a raise, you know. I mean, that's not the only reason
075why, but but I mean, we're trying to be competitive and having a mark that so that we can kind of stabilize the district at least to some extent, you know. So, these are the things that are kind of going on in the background. Um, I don't think I'm incorrect about any of the big numbers. The the only thing maybe that I'm incorrect about is what how much is recommended for a reserve, but we don't have some gigantic overage in reserve. David would be able to clarify that better. That's a Could you um clarify how much of a reserve we have approximately? I understand about um 15.6 6 million. And do you know the recommended? The there's the state says you can't be over 8% to raise taxes undesated for our size of our budget. But
076if it's designated, you can have it designated for OPED, retirement, different things. May I go ahead? So, uh, Mr. Bun, I, uh, I agree with, uh, I want to say most of what you said because I'm like very careful to to not say everything because, uh, there was one thing you said about the percentages, uh, which is what, uh, Miss Demco just uh, clarified the I don't think there's a recommended number. Uh, there is. Yeah. No, there's a there's a maximum number that uh the state uh law says that uh if you have more than that as as Mr. Bonburgger said undesated you don't have any plans for it then uh you cannot raise taxes and uh and and that number for us translates uh into about $4 million. So we are definitely a lot
077more than that. So uh uh the $15 million is uh uh roughly 25% of our budget. So uh and that number is pretty healthy. So I I the the one thing that I would just like I maybe like adjust what you said is that uh do sit on a uh fairly large of mine. Uh I uh just want to make a couple of notes. Uh this may you know these and others do also. We talked about it today but uh uh ju just sort of like talking about the big picture uh numbers. Uh so we have $60 million as the total expenditure this year. Note that 2.6 million of that is a one-time choice that we are making instead of uh paying the uh our share for the uh Babbot's expansion over 20 years which
078would cost our taxpayers a lot more considering the uh financing charges that would would happen. We are choosing to do that one time. So, uh I would uh I would I would take $2.6 million off of that uh 60.1 right before uh looking at anything further, right? And that sort of like I think is uh lower than the barrier that you uh you mentioned you had in in mind and and and I again I appreciate that number as being a large number and I think all all of these numbers are large for me. So uh uh the other is that uh there is a again you you you noted that there is a $7 million uh cost here which is for the uh for the healthcare. The reality of it is that other than the
079money that we pay for the insurance part of that, the reinsurance part, the million dollars that we were talking about, the rest of it, we actually don't know what it is until uh uh a few months after the end of the next fiscal year, which means that uh you know, we really would know how much we've spent for healthcare for the year 25 26. six very likely close to year 2027. So before that all of these are kind of like estimates, right? So uh the the the the point about that is that uh we would be paying the cost of uh healthcare as people use healthcare and depending on whether they use more or they use less or they need more or they need less it's that number is going to be uh uh fluctuating
080and fluctuates uh significantly as we've seen you know in the in the last few years. Uh the the the one part of that is the reinsurance part which is what I sort of like pleaded that we kind of like do something about it. That's uh uh that's that's about a million dollars uh in in there. Now you add these two numbers that I just mentioned the 7 million with a lot of uh volatility and 2.6 million you know we are down to 50 right uh even lower than 50. So that's just like sort of like again in terms of those barriers, you know, I I just wanted to note that there are u a couple of things in this budget that uh we uh we're very proud of when we uh uh discuss them when
081we approved them, you know, including the curricular aspects. I think we all agreed and uh our teachers agreed that uh these are uh uh things that the school should do. uh they uh spend a lot of time to uh go through the curriculum to uh uh revise places that needed revision to supplement it at places that it needed supplementing and uh uh and uh this is if I remember the number correctly from what Mr. Bonburgger shared with us at the finance committee last week uh about $600,000 of this uh is sort of like tied to the curriculum piece and that is uh not a recurring cost in a sense right it we may have this you know next year for some other subjects but once you have done all of your uh uh math you
082know K to2 and all of your English K to2 and all of your science and social studies then there aren't you know sort of like all of these programs that you need to buy again and again and again year after year. So uh so those are also sort of like coming off uh in terms of the long-term uh projection of the of the expenses and we had some serious problems too. We did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a the the thing is that to your point, you know, there are certain things that you do that you have to do. There are certain things that you do because uh that's uh part of sort of like the function of the school, right? and sort of like putting uh the appropriate books and materials in
083front of the kids uh giving them as resources to the teachers. That's the sort of like to me that's the fundamental sort of like role of the of the school. So there is really sort of like no no no argument about uh about that part of it. Now uh what is uh left in this to sort of like be squeezed I uh share uh your uh sentiment and uh encourage missy Mr. Bonenburgger and the rest of the um administration to look look into that. One thing for sure is that uh I mean this is based on what you were saying I should say two things. One is that if there is an expense that must not happen, we should withhold it, right? That's that's one thing, you know, this is sort of like that that
084type of uh the time. And the second is that when people are being squeezed, you know, uh at the grocery store and at the gas pump and at the their jobs are at uh risk as a result of that uh big bad rword that you uh you know uh wrote in the back of your your your agenda. That's precisely the right wrong time to go there and say, "Hey, you know what? Pay us a little more because, you know, something could happen." This the $15 million that uh that we have. It's not our money. It's the community's money. It's the money that they put in that account precisely for a time like this to make sure that, you know, we don't uh need to go back and say, uh, you know, no, now you're just
085going to sort of like, you know, destroy all of your uh contingency plans for if you lose your jobs. you know, like you got to come come up with a little more uh to pay for for this. So, these are the two areas that I think I I just wanted to sort of like emphasize maybe as conclusion that I'm not in favor of tax increases this year and uh I am uh definitely in favor of postponing any expenses that uh we can postpone this year that uh are not necessary uh and they are not sort of like going to the core of the function of the yeah of the school. I agree person there's a lot of uncertainty. There's no question about that. You you cannot dispute that, you know, and things could maybe get
086really good or they could get really bad, but we don't know. And it's not I mean, I don't think it's a time to charge taxpayers more money, you know, and in that situation. and and we we kind of you know that it's like we don't have a whole lot of choices about that I I feel any other comments questions philosophizing can can I say something that I forgot to say Mr. Bonnenberger and Mr. velocity. Thank you very much for uh the presentation putting things together. I know that uh uh Dave, if I may call you Dave here one time uh you know since uh uh uh December he's been working on this uh the the first few months of the year are the times that uh you should sort of like avoid him and uh
087Judy knows that she tries to sort of like not go anywhere near and and everyone else also there's a lot of work that uh uh it takes to put this together. I just wanted to say thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bonenburgger. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What are next step now for this? So, uh well, Mr. Bonenberger, do you next step is um the next meeting May 13th, you're going to have to at least adopt uh a preliminary budget. Um then it goes on display um to meet the deadline of the 30 days. So, our last meeting in June would be when you would do it, but you can still make tweaks for that time period. Um, I wouldn't suggest the last 10 days making any major tweaks, but up to then you can
088make changes to it. I mean, if you're reducing it, no big deal, but I mean, if you're going to increase it, I think, you know, it's on display for the taxpayers at that point. Um, they would not be happy within the last 10 days if you also decided you're going to, you know, make a big change. But so we would have to at least get it out there publicly on the 13th, make it a preliminary and then we would advertise there would be converted you know after the 30 days to um the final for those last 10 days. So ju just for clarity um we do just as just as Mr. Barenburgger said we do have to decide at the next meeting that we have the next full board meeting the next finance meeting is
089after that. So this is so this is our last meeting before we have to vote on this as the preliminary. Yeah. Yes. Um sorry. So connect to that we it has to be passed by we have to vote but it has to be accepted by so like June well June 30th is when the final you have to have a budget by June for us June 24th. So, uh uh I I think we actually have two meetings before we have to do the preliminary because June 24th uh uh a month before that is um Oh, yeah. Our uh our May 20th meeting, I'm assuming. Oh, no. We meet on the 27th. Yeah. Oh, yes. 13th 13th and 20 13th and 27th is our But were we were we uh debating we could continue to debate and
090not actually all vote in favor of the budget up until mid June, right? No, you we we have to vote on uh May 13th for the preliminary budget and then that is the budget that goes correct me if I'm wrong. That's the budget that goes on the on on the website for inspection and then uh the final approval of the budget would happen a month after that which for us translates to June 24th. Okay. Okay. Yes, I understand. Thank you. Okay. All right. Moving on to our finance items. We could just uh just in terms of the options, if we vote on the preliminary budget on May 13th, 27th, then uh we would uh have the option of having a special session on June 27th or June 28th or June 29th or June 30th and
091approved the final budget on either of those four dates. case that's not already scheduled, but that's always an option depending on, you know, how things are. Okay. All right. We have uh we have two items on u under finance. Um item number one is uh the Bethlehem Botech budget that we heard from Mr. Lassaric last meeting. And number two is the general healthc care resources uh education agreement. Can I get a motion for those two items? Moved. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. I. I. Opposed. The motions are the items are approved. Okay. Moving on to community updates. U. Anything from the Chamber of Commerce. Mr. Danti? Nothing to report. And the Saken Valley Foundation, Miss Magna, nothing to report. Thanks. And uh um we uh we don't have an update on
092uh Northampton Community College this time. Uh Bethlehem VOTE. Um I don't we last time as I've just mentioned we we heard about the budget. Uh Miss Demco, do you have anything else? Okay. And uh Colonial Intermediate Unit. Dr. Pox meeting is uh tomorrow. One thing you have u as the next item is uh the ballot for uh three of the uh members of the board of u the IU that are up for reelection and uh uh my my recommendation and suggestion is that we vote for all three of them. Mr. Mr. Bonnburgger, this this says that we um we need to approve this. Is that correct? Do we need to have a vote? You usually you just filled them out and then gave them to um the board secretary and then they put the vote
093in there. Okay. So, each of us will vote um um individually with our uh with the ballots that you have in front of you and be sure and turn those into um into Judy. Did we do we read the candidates names? Should we could we just do that? I I I'll just I'll just say uh you know a couple of words. Uh this is Miss Mr. Catrillo, Dr. Baird who's the president of the IU board and uh Mr. Clark are the three people from East Straber Northampton and uh Pleasant Valley. And I've had the pleasure of serving with all three of them already. And uh very fine people. Okay, moving on. Uh PSBA representative um uh Mr. Carpenter, Mr. Santos, uh any updates? Oh, uh Santos. Yeah, there is a building bridges webinar about civil
094dialogue. There's several sessions throughout the summer that looks interesting. It is free. And the other thing is is that as I mentioned last time, we have to vote for delegates which is on the agenda. So, okay. All right. Um and now we we also have the terms of uh Mr. Carpenter, Mr. Santos uh need to be uh renewed. Um so we need I I nominate them both. Okay. Any other nominations hearing? None. Um all in favor of uh renewing Mr. Carpenter, Mr. Santos, say I. I opposed. Um congratulations. Okay. Uh, moving on to new business. Do we have any new business? Any old business? Okay. Um, citizens inquiries and comments. Would anyone in the uh audience like to speak about any subject? Seeing no one. Um, announcements. Uh we have as we've discussed a our
095next meeting is on May 13th at 7 p.m. uh here in this room and we have we again meet on May 27th at 7 PM here in this room. We've reached the end of our agenda.